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tomtrytostay
I happen to believe though that to be at peace is our natural state and if we aren't then we can see what's occurring through observation and that disturbance will end
tomtrytostay
About my father . Well I did solve a bit . Chose to solve ! Welcome back choices ! I found that just as I had decided naturally I didn't want to talk to him , through analysis I still didn't want to talk to him .

I just think it's not like feeding the guy . It's keeping him company . And I don't want to . I think it's insulting to talk to someone through obligation. They are better to be alone .
tomtrytostay
Actually thinking about it it wasn't a choice . I knew I had to find out if I'd reach the same conclusion through analysis that I did through being mindful .

I accept now though that choice does exist . I don't experience choice anymore regarding my internal world such as should I worry about this , but I do in terms of my offline world such as shall I close the window ?
tomtrytostay
Do you think meditation is more than observation md ?
Stolen_Authenticity

http://theseventales.weebly.com/blogue/quantum-theory-proves-consciousness-moves-to-another-universe-at-death

tomtrytostay
Sa let's have your words too buddy
tomtrytostay
Md I feel that I'm seeing things clearer and you know perhaps you're part of that . I see now that choice does exist . Thank you
tomtrytostay
Okay back to Omfoc
tomtrytostay
I'd say that really what I record is what I see . It's not about doing this or that , just about being aware that this or that happens if you do this .
mdinnerspace

Nothing to do? Nowhere to go? Time hangs heavy? Bored? Depressed? Also badly scared? Casual factors beyond control?

Unfortunate. Regrettable. Vicious cycle -snake swallowing it's own tail. Mind dwells on problems; problems fester, assume even greater importance for mind to dwell on. Etc. Bad enough were problems minor.

mdinnerspace

And no... meditation is NOT observation. The goal is to achieve nothingness. No thought. Certainly not observing. But you will never understand this concept tom. You are much obsessed with mistaken thoughts beyond your escaping.

mdinnerspace

A perfect example is given by a question of yours.. how to improve at chess?.. in another thread of yours. A few suggestions were made. Your response was study and learning tactics was a waste of your time. Not practical. You wanted the "magic elixer". Everything for free. No work. You wanted nothing to with what regular people endure to achieve success. Just another sign of your life in denial

Stolen_Authenticity

Non-Sequitur - The following; Is a 'bb' posted, Forum- analogy; To how the 'Google'-'Weiqi'/game-of-'Go' Supercomputer; Recently, both 'bested' and confused, its' 'world {human} champion' opponent; E.g. Do the unexpected!  0:

tomtrytostay
I feel better md for recognising we have choice . Things seems simpler and more straightforward . I feel more in control . I still imagine though I'll go through my day without feeling that I'm experiencing any choices . Just doing what I feel like but at least I can see that I have a choice whether or not to solve when I conceive a problem and that's helpful to me . Thank you for the challenges .
tomtrytostay
Ah I've read the contributions .

Well I get this no effort thing . I'm not saying that I'm fully there but I'm sure that I've benefited through mindfulness and that's how I'd like to continue .

As for learning more well I've completed my logical search and found everything is natural (not divine ).

Now I'd like to document what I am as opposed to how to be healthy.

Just see what observation and mapping brings me .
mdinnerspace

Tom just wrote:

Now I'd like to document what I am as opposed to how to be healthy.

A sledge hammer would have no effect on your brain.

An unhealthy mind (yours) will never understand "what you are".

Ur a hopeless nut job.

See ya, adios

mdinnerspace

Nothing to do? Nowhere to go? Time hangs heavy? Bored? Depressed? Also badly scared? Casual factors beyond control?

Unfortunate. Regrettable. Vicious cycle -snake swallowing it's own tail. Mind dwells on problems; problems fester, assume even greater importance for mind to dwell on. Etc. Bad enough were problems minor.

tomtrytostay
Ah . Thank you
Stolen_Authenticity

'Intro' to: focusongod.com .. {'unexpected' essay}

A young man went to see a fortune-teller. She studied his hand and told him, "You will be poor and completely miserable until you are 41 years old." The man said, "Then what will happen? Will I become rich?" "No, " said the fortune teller. "You'll always be poor, but you'll become accustomed to it so that it no longer makes your miserable."

tomtrytostay
You see sa . That's beautiful . Common ground right there