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wow there's been a jail break, you felons get back inside, you have been busted and are ineligible for parole!

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Compare my 3 or 4 mentions of Liberal and I believe only one mention of Socialist by JamieDelarosa to the comments below from this thread by robbie_1969:  They are not all directed at me, but they are a good indication of the way he discusses issues. LOL

They need someone to feel their bums to bring them back to reality.

airhead!

That is not an argument, its simply an other ill informed and rather ignorant opinion the like of which one finds spray painted on subway walls.  Please find the tone control and turn it all the way up.

Another unsubstantiated airhead opinion.

Please visit airhead anonymous.

No one cares whether you see it as a problem, we have already established that you are to all intents and proposes incapable of rational thought.

I have demonstrated why your opinions are more bull than a herd of Texan longhorns.  

I dont drink Buckie my logically challenged friend

no amount of empirical evidence can convince the truly deluded.

Many Americans use the term socialism like its a dirty word.


See you used the S word as many times as your opponents!


Now below are comments from this thread by now_and_zen:


Such an idiotic rebuttal

I can understand how a simplistic mind like yours could only see it in unresolvable terms and not try to intelligently figure out ways to grapple with the problem.

I think the truth has a liberal bias.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You said "tried and true". Do you not even know what your own words mean?

It's not even a debate anymore except primarily from fossil fuel industry funded disinformationists and the partisan fools

Anyway, thanks for tipping your hand, you partisan hack.

For you even to ask such a thing is to reveal the disingenuousness or ignorance behind your whole charade in this thread.

 

 Low  brow pseudo Conservatives can't invent their way out of a box.

Well it's certainly a partisan/political one, and almost invariably erroneous, disingenuous when Conservatives use it

Republicans go for the winner-take-all monpolistic unregulated Capitalism  


He uses Conservative meanhile he rebuked me with the comment below. He will say he's only responding in kind. But he's happily picked up the ball and is running with it.


" It is merely a thinly-veiled  partisan political hit piece, and as such, it does not belong in the chess.com forums as per Erik's pinned top post for this forum".

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xlote wrote:

now_and_zen wrote:

"If you look through the history of this thread, the OP and xlote tipped their hand that it's partisan/political BS (they even trotted out 'socialism' and other bs tangental motives and party line/talking points/slurs). Science is definitely not at the root of this thread. It is merely a thinly-veiled  partisan political hit piece, and as such, it does not belong in the chess.com forums as per Erik's pinned top post for this forum".

In this thread I have posted 3 articles to date.  I have responded to responses from 'now_and_zen' & 'robbie_1969'.   I never used the word socialist/socialism, etc., that I can remember.  I used Liberal on a few occassions.  If this is not allowed in these forums, I apologize for doing so.

Of course it is allowed.

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xlote wrote:

See you used the S word as many times as your opponents!


Have you tried boohoo.com? They sell flowery dresses. Buy one and cheer yourself up :D

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xlote wrote:

Compare my 3 or 4 mentions of Liberal and I believe only one mention of Socialist by JamieDelarosa to the comments below from this thread by robbie_1969:  They are not all directed at me, but they are a good indication of the way he discusses issues. LOL

They need someone to feel their bums to bring them back to reality.

airhead!

That is not an argument, its simply an other ill informed and rather ignorant opinion the like of which one finds spray painted on subway walls.  Please find the tone control and turn it all the way up.

Another unsubstantiated airhead opinion.

Please visit airhead anonymous.

No one cares whether you see it as a problem, we have already established that you are to all intents and proposes incapable of rational thought.

I have demonstrated why your opinions are more bull than a herd of Texan longhorns.  

I dont drink Buckie my logically challenged friend

no amount of empirical evidence can convince the truly deluded.

Many Americans use the term socialism like its a dirty word.


See you used the S word as many times as your opponents!


Now below are comments from this thread by now_and_zen:


Such an idiotic rebuttal

I can understand how a simplistic mind like yours could only see it in unresolvable terms and not try to intelligently figure out ways to grapple with the problem.

I think the truth has a liberal bias.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You said "tried and true". Do you not even know what your own words mean?

It's not even a debate anymore except primarily from fossil fuel industry funded disinformationists and the partisan fools

Anyway, thanks for tipping your hand, you partisan hack.

For you even to ask such a thing is to reveal the disingenuousness or ignorance behind your whole charade in this thread.

 

 Low  brow pseudo Conservatives can't invent their way out of a box.

Well it's certainly a partisan/political one, and almost invariably erroneous, disingenuous when Conservatives use it

Republicans go for the winner-take-all monpolistic unregulated Capitalism  


He uses Conservative meanhile he rebuked me with the comment below. He will say he's only responding in kind. But he's happily picked up the ball and is running with it.


" It is merely a thinly-veiled  partisan political hit piece, and as such, it does not belong in the chess.com forums as per Erik's pinned top post for this forum".

I enjoy a robust debate, so I allow robbie and zen to continue to post in the topic, though they have been relegated to ad hominem attacks, having been embarrassed by their betters.

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One thing I have noticed, liberals always prefer insults to real debate. This thread only reinforces that observation.

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embarrassed? gee i didn't know you blushed so easily. :P

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Ricky_Freeman wrote:

One thing I have noticed, liberals always prefer insults to real debate. This thread only reinforces that observation.

really? then perhaps you can enlighten us ? In scientific terms what happens to all the energy that we produce and consume from fossil fuels.  Lets see you substantiate your claim of real debate for as far as I can discern neither you nor your friends have produced anything remotely resembling even a semblance of reasoned debate.  So here is your chance to enlighten us.

I must also point out that in Europe the term liberal has a different meaning than the politically polarised one so often trotted out as a convenient hackneyed expression by opponents who need a crutch upon which to hang their political bias.

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Ricky_Freeman wrote:

One thing I have noticed, liberals always prefer insults to real debate. This thread only reinforces that observation.

Of course you see the irony of being a Conservative posting a stupid insult and a stupid canned party-line talking point cliché insult as well, right?

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robbie_1969 wrote: "Have you tried boohoo.com? They sell flowery dresses. Buy one and cheer yourself up :D"

I'm not bothered in the least by your debating techniques.  It's clear you and now_and_zen learned them at Harvard or some such place of deep thought.  It's just that when they are spaced out over many posts people might lose sight of who's saying what.  Posting them together like I did shows your debating skills & techniques very well.  So, it's very clear to the casual reader that you guys have a lot of profound things to say. LOL

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now_and_zen wrote:
clms_chess wrote:

Really? If my wife who has a terrible medical condition is forced to go to a doctor other than the expert on her rare condition that saved her life... That almost happened under Obama socialist care... So yes...the above is an example of "dirty" socialism.

"almost happened"?

Except

Obamacare isn't mandatory. You can choose a private insurer and/or doctor.
Patients outraged after losing doctors under Obamacare ...
If it wasnt for our dogged determination and fight (lasted 2 years) at insisting we keep her Mayo Clinic Doctor (a national expert on her condidtion) instead of the "available in the loop doctor" within the "affordable care act" ... we would have been forced to go to another doctor.
My inlaws who are democrats lol (he is also doctor) were forced to drop their long time personal physisian and use another doctor under Obama care.
She has a pre-existing condition. Obamacare prevents her from being excluded from any and all insurance plans, and being dropped during major health problems, then rejected for pre-existing conditions, as was common practice by private insurers, pre-ACA Many insurance plans and HMOs will ony cover certain doctors/treatments anyway.
That is good... but does not apply to us as we were already had coverage when she was diagnosed.
Under Obamacare you can pay for different levels of coverage. And you get what you pay for, just like w/o ACA.

So what was your point again, exactly? That something bad almost happened you think?

Anymore BS partisan talking points?

*Reaches over to politely hand you a paper towel to wipe off your "non partisan" far left foaming from your mouth liberalism*

Naaa bro..you missed a spot...yea...

riiiight....there.

 

there ya go.....  seeeee.

You're good to go :D

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xlote wrote:


I'm not bothered in the least by your debating techniques. 

I am not debating with you, I am mocking you. :D

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clms_chess wrote:
now_and_zen wrote:
clms_chess wrote:

Really? If my wife who has a terrible medical condition is forced to go to a doctor other than the expert on her rare condition that saved her life... That almost happened under Obama socialist care... So yes...the above is an example of "dirty" socialism.

"almost happened"?

Except

Obamacare isn't mandatory. You can choose a private insurer and/or doctor.
Patients outraged after losing doctors under Obamacare ...
 
 
naz> *Adequate* insurance (not necessarily ACA) is mandatory or fine.
        The people who lost their insurance either had lousy plans to begin with
        or their insurers dumped them after ACA started.
 
If it wasnt for our dogged determination and fight (lasted 2 years) at insisting we keep her Mayo Clinic Doctor (a national expert on her condidtion) instead of the "available in the loop doctor" within the "affordable care act" ... we would have been forced to go to another doctor.
My inlaws who are democrats lol (he is also doctor) were forced to drop their long time personal physisian and use another doctor under Obama care.

naz> Why didn't they just get an insurance plan or PPO that let you keep your
        current doctor? If you had good coverage to begin with ACA  didn't
        require any changes. I was informed way ahead of ACA by my employer
        I could keep my insurance.
 
She has a pre-existing condition. Obamacare prevents her from being excluded from any and all insurance plans, and being dropped during major health problems, then rejected for pre-existing conditions, as was common practice by private insurers, pre-ACA Many insurance plans and HMOs will ony cover certain doctors/treatments anyway.
That is good... but does not apply to us as we were already had coverage when she was diagnosed.
Under Obamacare you can pay for different levels of coverage. And you get what you pay for, just like w/o ACA.

So what was your point again, exactly? That something bad almost happened you think?

Anymore BS partisan talking points?

Reaches over to politely hand you a paper towel to wipe off your "non partisan" far left foaming from your mouth liberalism

 

    naz> I never said I wasn't Liberal (I always score moderate/slightly Left of Center on all the political litmus tests I've taken, but the GOP is well known to have gone Far Right off the deep end, so their perspective is skewed up).  All I said was the Klown who top posted this was mouthing off an RW agenda in a thinly veiled partisan political thread and unmasked her BS mid thread.


Naaa bro..you missed a spot...yea...

riiiight....there.

there ya go.....  seeeee.

You're good to go :D

 

naz> Don't come unglued. Surely you can just discuss things like an adult, and not a 13 yr old having a troubled puberty?

 
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robbie_1969 wrote:

embarrassed? gee i didn't know you blushed so easily. :P

Very good.

I think you will see that I am a no-nonsense sort of gal.

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JamieDelarosa wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:

embarrassed? gee i didn't know you blushed so easily. :P

Very good.

I think you will see that I am a no-nonsense sort of gal.

What I see is you're completely full-of-crap and posted political flame bait against site policies.

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now_and_zen wrote:
JamieDelarosa wrote:
robbie_1969 wrote:

embarrassed? gee i didn't know you blushed so easily. :P

Very good.

I think you will see that I am a no-nonsense sort of gal.

What I see is you're completely full-of-crap and posted political flame bait against site policies.

What the? full of crap? whats up with name calling? She has gone toe to toe with you.... questioning the science behind man made global warming... opening it up to dialogue... and made some great points.... and you resort to name calling. Okayyyyyyyyy.

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now_and_zen persists with the ad hominem attacks.

The political aspect of the topic is derived from the alliance of Environmental Alarmists with Leftist political interests.

Environmentalism has becme the New Age religion of the Left - in America, Europe (Green parties), and elsewhere.

When now_and_zen wishes to swear off the personal attacks, they will be allowed back into the topic.

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Oy, vey.  :D

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When now_and_zen wishes to swear off the personal attacks, they will be allowed back into the topic.

Please can you block me out as well, i don't think i can take any more of your intellectual hypocrisy, your colleagues disingenuous  attempts to politicise a purely scientific issue and your friends inability to address some rather basic questions of scientific interest that were put to them. Its clear that you have not the foggiest idea what you're talking about and think that by citing sources which call into question the scientific data it amounts to an understanding of the actual issues we are facing.  I hold you and your friends morally reprehensible for doing so and i want nothing more to do with you. Adios.

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robbie_1969 wrote:

When now_and_zen wishes to swear off the personal attacks, they will be allowed back into the topic.

Please can you block me out as well, i don't think i can take any more of your intellectual hypocrisy, your colleagues disingenuous  attempts to politicise a purely scientific issue and your friends inability to address some rather basic questions of scientific interest that were put to them. Its clear that you have not the foggiest idea what you're talking about and think that by citing sources which call into question the scientific data it amounts to an understanding of the actual issues we are facing.  I hold you and your friends morally reprehensible for doing so and i want nothing more to do with you. Adios.

Well, its well written name calling Ill give you that. lol

Quick... did (over 70%) city's across the United States hottest year records occur after 1990 or before 1940? :)

Well I gave ya a few days to guess lol.

The answer is: Over 70% of city heat records across the US occured BEFORE 1940.

Come on... you know if you were among Al Gores ilk... you would have absolutely have picked the last 25 years as having broken all city heat records..yes? :D