The Beatles or The Rolling Stones or who ? ( or even the Who ? )

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Thanks for the new posts and the info.

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batgirl wrote:

Buddy Holly was intentional Rock and Roll. Bill Haley always struck me as an anomaly or an accident. The Comets was a C&W dance band who sort of stumbled into Rock and Roll and really never belonged there. 

"Surfin' USA" was a copy of "Sweet Little Sixteen" musically, though the lyrics were prototypical Brian Wilson.  Chuck Berry's plagiarism lawsuit threat was settled out of court.  It's really sad because Carl Wilson was patterning his guitar playing directly on that of Chuck Berry.

   ---   Thanks a lot the info Batgirl. Yes of course " Buddy Holly & The Crickets " belong in a class of their own without a doubt, however " Bill Haley & His Comets " also go way back to the early days of Rock. Plus there is also a connection between Rock and Country music thru " Rockabilly Music ". That reminded me of the fact that Elvis Presley had his big early hit ( back in 1954 ) with " That's All Right Mama " and also had his version of " Blue Moon Of Kentucky " on the same 45 rpm record. Of course Bill Monroe of Bluegrass fame had written " Blue Moon Of Kentucky " and when Elvis recorded that number he had to speed up the tempo a bit. 

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varelse1 wrote:
batgirl wrote: 

After Huey Lewis won his lawsuit against Ray Parker jr., he just retired, and became a golf bum.

I guess Huey Lewis got the News.

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badenwurtca wrote:

That reminded me of the fact that Elvis Presley had his big early hit ( back in 1954 ) with " That's All Right Mama " and also had his version of " Blue Moon Of Kentucky " on the same 45 rpm record. Of course Bill Monroe of Bluegrass fame had written " Blue Moon Of Kentucky " and when Elvis recorded that number he had to speed up the tempo a bit. 

Sure R&R had its roots in C&W, Bluegrass, Blues, Boogie Woogie and even Jazz.  That's one reason it's hard to define, but also a reason why it's so varied. The Everly Brothers were country. Their father, Ike, was a fantastic guitarist along the lines of Les Paul and Chet Atkins. I think, even more than Elvis, they blended R&R with Country.   The influence of old time Country music is quite evident in the early Beatles (but then again so is the influence of 40s music and show tunes).    

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batgirl wrote:
varelse1 wrote:
batgirl wrote: 

After Huey Lewis won his lawsuit against Ray Parker jr., he just retired, and became a golf bum.

I guess Huey Lewis got the News.

Lol

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varelse1 wrote:
batgirl wrote:

Buddy Holly was intentional Rock and Roll. Bill Haley always struck me as an anomaly or an accident. The Comets was a C&W dance band who sort of stumbled into Rock and Roll and really never belonged there. 

"Surfin' USA" was a copy of "Sweet Little Sixteen" musically, though the lyrics were prototypical Brian Wilson.  Chuck Berry's plagiarism lawsuit threat was settled out of court.  It's really sad because Carl Wilson was patterning his guitar playing directly on that of Chuck Berry.

After Huey Lewis won his lawsuit against Ray Parker jr., he just retired, and became a golf bum.

no. he was still playing until he was diagnosed with a rare ear disease. https://www.nbclosangeles.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Huey-Lewis-Inner-Ear-Disorder-Interview-481926091.html

 

(even if he did not have the disease, what's wrong with being a golf bum?)

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badenwurtca wrote: ... Of course Bill Monroe of Bluegrass fame had written " Blue Moon Of Kentucky " and when Elvis recorded that number he had to speed up the tempo a bit. 

My favorite example of a cover is Johnny Cash playing Soundgarden's Rusty Cage. Naturally, I like Soundgarden's version a lot better, but it just blows my mind that Johnny Cash would cover it.

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some of those covers do seem odd, as you mention, big bird. for example, nine inch nails did johnny cash's hurt. reznor was a cash fan?!?

tony bennett put out an album a few years back where he took popular/rock songs and put big band (orchestra) to them. the few songs i heard were impressive.

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BISHOP_e3 wrote:

In fact it was Johnny Cash who covered the Resnor/Nine Inch Nail song "Hurt".

yes. my mistake. 

funny how easy it is to forget these things.

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(by the way, i think the fragile is a masterpiece)

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AlCzervik wrote:

 

 

(even if he did not have the disease, what's wrong with being a golf bum?)

Nothing hopefully.

That's my retirement plan!

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Is amazing how people like Johnny Cash so much better, now that he is dead.

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Hurt was a very fitting swansong for an artist such as Cash, though.

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The Velvet Underground

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We recently lost another singer from the old days of Rock & Roll with the passing of Gary Marsden of Gary And The Pacemakers. They had a big hit back in 1965 with: " Ferry Cross The Mersey " ( also written by Gary Marsden ).

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Has to be the Beatles for me but I'm biased as I'm from Liverpool. 

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varelse1 wrote:

Is amazing how people like Johnny Cash so much better, now that he is dead.

Soundgarden did a pretty good cover of Johnny Cash's "Rusty Cage".

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Oh wow.

I never knew that was a Johnny Cash cover.

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"If you need another name for Rock'n'Roll you can call it Chuck Berry."

--John Lennon

If I were stranded on a desert island with the music of only one band it would be The Beatles. No need to think twice.

 

But I listen to everything from classical to metal depending on my mood. I'm a big fan of many, many of the bands mentioned on this thread.

 

If I had to pick a favorite genre or era I think the British invasion bands are my favorites.