The Women's World Chess Championship of 2012

trysts
Scottrf wrote:

Draws under 15 moves sounds like collusion, not nerves.

I agree that collusion cannot be overlooked. Makes ya' wonder what is going to happen in that matchWink

trysts

Here is their most recent game, before today. Tatiana and Nadezhda are grandmasters. Is the game below an example of collusion? 



Ruby-Fischer

bd6 at move 9 looks like playing for a draw to me, clever draw though :)

electricpawn

Grandmaster draw, no question. What is their situation in the tournament? Maybe they have some tough games ahead agreed to take a game off.

trysts

In the 2010 superfinal, the exact fourteen moves of the above game were played by the sisters. In fact they played this opening 7 times against each other for draws. They weren't even hiding the collusion!Laughing

trysts
electricpawn wrote:

Grandmaster draw, no question. What is their situation in the tournament? Maybe they have some tough games ahead agreed to take a game off.

They are matched against each other in the third round, which started today. This is a "knockout tournament", so one of them is going to have to win their mini-match.

rooperi
trysts wrote:

In the 2010 superfinal, the exact fourteen moves of the above game were played by the sisters. In fact they played this opening 7 times against each other for draws. They weren't even hiding the collusion!

That shouldn't be  allowed, it really sux

electricpawn

Far from laudable, but unfortunately nothing new.

corrijean

You'd think they'd be embarrassed to do something so unethical.

pdela

The fight spirit of women Trysts talked about

electricpawn

Maybe they're friends and don't want to hurt each other's chance of winning. Maybe they were tired. Hard to know their motivation, but it may not be as base and craven as it seems.

Scottrf

pdela wrote:

The fight spirit of women Trysts talked about

Ha.

johnyoudell

I can't really see much wrong with grandmaster draws.  Tournament organisers and people who have paid money to watch good chess don't like them and there are an increasing number of tournaments which bar early draws. But if that condition is not written into the tournament conditions it seems to me the competitors are entitled to focus their energy and concentration into the games they think are critical to achieving their target in the competition.

You would not expect an athlete to bust a gut in heats or a semi final if they don't have to. Grandmaster draws are not so very different from that.

pfren

The Kosintseva sisters NEVER play against each other. This pair will be decided on blitz, or sudden death.

corrijean

I disagree. I think it would be more similar to two athlete's conspiring to take it easy in a semi final. It is the collusion part I don't like.

piphilologist
pfren wrote:

The Kosintseva sisters NEVER play against each other. This pair will be decided on blitz, or sudden death.

Their game today was a draw, but looks like they played on a bit and tried to win

trysts
pdela wrote:

The fight spirit of women Trysts talked about

I was quoting Khalifman, pdelaWink, and I agree that the women in this tournament are putting on an exciting display of chess! I again relate it to women's tennis where it's nearly impossible to know how a match would end based upon their rank(or ratings). The Kosintseva sisters are finally going to play chess against each other after six years of avoiding it. Remember, I watched the open candidates tournament, and the open world chess championship so I'm a bit more excited about the battles going on in the women's tournament.Wink

pfren

It just looks so... I am sure they have not really played this game.

For the record, the Kosintseva sisters were seriously considering dropping competitive chess completely, as they feel that the head of the Russian Chess Federation (Levitov) does not care about women's chess, and does not offer any real incentives, or sustantial support.

Mrs. Pogonina surely knows much more than me on the subject, although she may not be willing to express her opinion.

cabadenwurt

The OP mentioned that she is not cheering for Irina Krush on principle however in my case I'm outside the USA and I like Irina ( she is married to a Candian GM plus she writes some nice articles for " Chess Life " from time to time ). She is also a 4 time USA Women's Champion.  

chesskingdreamer
pdela wrote:

I bet Anna Muzychuk will win,  20$ on Muzychuck

SHE IS ALREADY ELIMINATED. i take ur betWink