The Women's World Chess Championship of 2012

  • #121
    Scottrf wrote:

    Draws under 15 moves sounds like collusion, not nerves.

    I agree that collusion cannot be overlooked. Makes ya' wonder what is going to happen in that matchWink

  • #122

    Here is their most recent game, before today. Tatiana and Nadezhda are grandmasters. Is the game below an example of collusion? 



  • #123

    bd6 at move 9 looks like playing for a draw to me, clever draw though :)

  • #124

    Grandmaster draw, no question. What is their situation in the tournament? Maybe they have some tough games ahead agreed to take a game off.

  • #125

    In the 2010 superfinal, the exact fourteen moves of the above game were played by the sisters. In fact they played this opening 7 times against each other for draws. They weren't even hiding the collusion!Laughing

  • #126
    electricpawn wrote:

    Grandmaster draw, no question. What is their situation in the tournament? Maybe they have some tough games ahead agreed to take a game off.

    They are matched against each other in the third round, which started today. This is a "knockout tournament", so one of them is going to have to win their mini-match.

  • #127
    trysts wrote:

    In the 2010 superfinal, the exact fourteen moves of the above game were played by the sisters. In fact they played this opening 7 times against each other for draws. They weren't even hiding the collusion!

    That shouldn't be  allowed, it really sux

  • #128

    Far from laudable, but unfortunately nothing new.

  • #129

    You'd think they'd be embarrassed to do something so unethical.

  • #130

    The fight spirit of women Trysts talked about

  • #131

    Maybe they're friends and don't want to hurt each other's chance of winning. Maybe they were tired. Hard to know their motivation, but it may not be as base and craven as it seems.

  • #132

    pdela wrote:

    The fight spirit of women Trysts talked about

    Ha.

  • #133

    I can't really see much wrong with grandmaster draws.  Tournament organisers and people who have paid money to watch good chess don't like them and there are an increasing number of tournaments which bar early draws. But if that condition is not written into the tournament conditions it seems to me the competitors are entitled to focus their energy and concentration into the games they think are critical to achieving their target in the competition.

    You would not expect an athlete to bust a gut in heats or a semi final if they don't have to. Grandmaster draws are not so very different from that.

  • #134

    The Kosintseva sisters NEVER play against each other. This pair will be decided on blitz, or sudden death.

  • #135

    I disagree. I think it would be more similar to two athlete's conspiring to take it easy in a semi final. It is the collusion part I don't like.

  • #136
    pfren wrote:

    The Kosintseva sisters NEVER play against each other. This pair will be decided on blitz, or sudden death.

    Their game today was a draw, but looks like they played on a bit and tried to win

  • #137
    pdela wrote:

    The fight spirit of women Trysts talked about

    I was quoting Khalifman, pdelaWink, and I agree that the women in this tournament are putting on an exciting display of chess! I again relate it to women's tennis where it's nearly impossible to know how a match would end based upon their rank(or ratings). The Kosintseva sisters are finally going to play chess against each other after six years of avoiding it. Remember, I watched the open candidates tournament, and the open world chess championship so I'm a bit more excited about the battles going on in the women's tournament.Wink

  • #138

    It just looks so... I am sure they have not really played this game.

    For the record, the Kosintseva sisters were seriously considering dropping competitive chess completely, as they feel that the head of the Russian Chess Federation (Levitov) does not care about women's chess, and does not offer any real incentives, or sustantial support.

    Mrs. Pogonina surely knows much more than me on the subject, although she may not be willing to express her opinion.

  • #139

    The OP mentioned that she is not cheering for Irina Krush on principle however in my case I'm outside the USA and I like Irina ( she is married to a Candian GM plus she writes some nice articles for " Chess Life " from time to time ). She is also a 4 time USA Women's Champion.  

  • #140
    pdela wrote:

    I bet Anna Muzychuk will win,  20$ on Muzychuck

    SHE IS ALREADY ELIMINATED. i take ur betWink

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