# 9/28/2013 - White to Draw

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ZacWilson wrote:

I'll admit it.  This one lost me.  How is the end of this puzzle a guaranteed DRAW?

Good point!  I think it's just that the material is even.

• 2 months ago · Quote · #224
Bryan681972 wrote:
RioBRChess wrote:

And I can't figure out why the first move isn't 1. Ne4+.  Why not?

I think if 1. Ne4+ then 1...Qxe4!! 2. Qxe4 d1=Q+, and black is up a piece for a pawn.

You're right, thanks!  Chess.com's solution is better (of course :-):  Black and White ends even.

• 2 months ago · Quote · #225

balls to this

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Bryan681972 wrote:
vitali_10 wrote:

Bryan681972 you haven't looked at my last post, there I explained everything. 3... Kg5 4. Qxd2+ Qxd2 5. Ne4+. 2... Kg5 3. Qxd2 Qxd2 4. Ne4+. 1...Qxh4 2. Qe3+! Qf4 3. Qxd2 Qxd2 4. Ne4+. Post the full lines, otherwise some people won't understand you. As you can see there are several posibilities, so dailypuzzle chose the one where there is only solution for white.

I did look at your last post, and you do not have the line 1. h4+ Kxh4 2. Qxe2 Qd4+ 3. Kh2 Kg5 4. Qxd2+ in there.  You have that line with 4. Ne4+ being played.  There is a big difference.

As you suggest, after 4. Ne4+ then 4...Qxe4 is a draw, or better put, leads to even material for now.  If 5. Qxd2+, material is even.  If 5. Qxe4 d1=Q, material is even.

However, if 4. Qxd2+, white will end up a full knight ahead.  If black responds 4...Qxd2 then 5. Ne4+ followed by 6. Nxd2.  If black moves the king on move four then 5. Qxd4, and white is up a queen and knight.  If black responds 4...Qe3+ then 5. Qxe3+, and white is up a queen and knight.  If black responds 4...Qf4 then 5. Qxf4+ Kxf4, and white is up a knight.

And it's basically the same idea on 1. h4+ Kh4 2. Qxe2 Kg5.  If 3. Ne4+ then 3...Qxe4, and material is even for now.  But if 3. Qxd2 then white is up a full knight (3...Qxd2 4. Ne4+ followed by 5. Nxd2).

Hopefully this explains it.

I know Bryan, but we're playing for white  Black has to make sure they don't do a mistake. So for white those lines are still good.

• 2 months ago · Quote · #230

victorpu, please stop making puzzle spam here. For this you can create your own post and if anyone is interested he'll look there.

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I love how 1300 rated players say "easy". xD

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'Trickey