Petroff Gone Bad & Training

Submitted by IM Silman on Mon, 10/12/2009 at 12:35am.

Basheer Unneenkutty asked:

Today I had a game in which my opponent played 3…Nxe4? in the Petroff Defense: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 Nxe4. I played 4.Qe2 (aiming Nc6+ to get black’s Queen). He responded with 4…d6 and after 5.Nxf7 Kxf7 6.Qxe4 I had an extra Pawn and had displaced the black King – I won the game soon. Was this the best way to meet his 3…Nxe4 or did I miss some crushing sequence of tactics?

Dear Mr. Unneenkutty:

You played very well! Let's take a closer look (don't forget to click on MOVE LIST to see all the text and moves):

 

 

 

 

Again, the Petroff is a very sound opening IF it's played properly. That means 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nxe5 d6 3.Nf3 Nxe4 4.d4 d5 is the main starting position when a huge body of theory exists (as it does in every popular opening). For those that want to study this system in great detail, I'll suggest THE PETROFF DEFENCE by Artur Yusupov (Olms Edition, 1999 – 434 analysis crammed pages!). Other books on the Petroff (that are a bit easier to handle):

PETROFF DEFENCE by Raetsky & Chetverik (Everyman, 2005 – 191 pages)

BEATING THE PETROFF by Kotronias & Tzermiadianos (Batsford, 2004 – 240 pages)

THE PETROFF DEFENSE by Forintos & Haag (Macmillan, 1991 – 254 pages) 

 

Stefan asks:

How exactly do you get better without a coach or person at home that is in any way good at chess? I know there are millions of great chess books out there yet I believe that someone should have guidance from someone who is experienced like yourself. The number 8 player in the state is coming next Saturday to play me but only for a half an hour. Is there anyone in M.A who is good, or is there a good chess club? People play in Harvard Square but I live about 40 miles away from there. The computer is programmed and doesn't have it's own style of thinking. I am at a total loss in finding guidance besides books. Are books good enough to get you into the scholastic state championships? Also, how do you get into the tournaments that lead into the state championships? My mom says you have to get in by being in a school team or chess club. I don't think I am ready for state though. With black, how do you stop the advantage of white getting into the center first? Let's say there was 1.d4 d5 2.c4.

PS: My mom thought I should tell you my age, I don't know why. I am twelve years old and I am in sixth grade in seventh grade classes. Thanks a lot!

Dear Stefan:

That’s a lot of stuff to cover! The problem with books is that most players don’t know what they need, what their weaknesses are, and what books would be best to help fix these problems. Thus, hiring a teacher to set up a personal, tailor made study program would be ideal. The other problem you pose about finding opponents to play is also a big one.

These are both huge concerns since proper guidance is critical, as is playing superior players and getting your head knocked off over and over again. When I was 12 and 13, I played two kids that were clearly stronger than I was. They came over several times a week and played me 5 minute chess for money: whoever wins the most out of 10 games gets a quarter. And I never won the majority of games. In fact, they butchered me and laughed as they did so. However, I quietly took my lumps, forked over my quarter, and “stole” their knowledge – one game at a time!

If you want to get better, you have to look for guys that can beat you and force you to pay your dues. So how does one find these superior players? Also, how does one find a good teacher? In the old days you were more or less out of luck if you didn't live near a good chess club (though you could resort to postal chess, which now has been simplified with e-mail chess). Now you can simply join any number of great chess websites (like Chess.com)!

Many sites like these offer live games, but they also offer an endless amount of strong teachers, online lessons for very reasonable fees, articles, videos, and much more. It doesn't get better than that!

 

 

 

 

 

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Comments:

by karlo_melendres - 25 days ago
Quezon City Philippines
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 560

thanks for sharing a wonderful idea and books regarding the Petroff defence.

by Elubas - 43 days ago
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2362

I'd rather just grab the pawn in the ...Nxe4 petroff. It seems to be the most tangible advantage, and black is not that ahead in development.

by Abhilash_007 - 44 days ago
Bangalore India
Member Since: Dec 2008
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Mr Silman , I thank you and appreciate for all the chess knowledge you gave me on chess.com

by FM charlesgalofre - 44 days ago
Miami United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 334

Stefan:

I use to know some one at the chess club that was referred to as the physicist. he improved very quickly in chess by surrounding himself with resources. everyone here could give you the wisest advice, i will give you something out of the box. if you surround yourself with resources, you can defnitely notice an improvement.

its obvious that chess.com is your best portal for chess resources...  its the online, always growing, chessmaster.

 

 

your buddy,

Charles

 

ps

(Silman, Aagaard, Dvoretsky... the authors of the future ;) )

by FM charlesgalofre - 44 days ago
Miami United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 334

IM Silman,

            Just by any chance, would you know how I can get Alisa Melekhina's e-mail or contact information?  I'm just on of her growing number of fans and I want to send her messages of support.  Thank you.

 

:D

I know... and I dont know... its very special. very very special.

by RobKing - 44 days ago
Worcester,MA United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 86

Stefan, I am from MA and I play at two different chess clubs. You can contact me here or email me at rking@builtrite-reliance.com . I can talk to your parents and maybe help you find a club that is reasonable for you to go to or atleast give you some information. There are many good coaches as in MA as well. It depends on your level as to what coach suits you best.

by demetrios18 - 44 days ago
new york United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 498

Mr Silman , I thank you and appreciate for all the chess knowledge you gave me those books, chess programs, chess mentor and topics here on chess.com

I love your variations and the way you think and vison the chess board.

by AnlamK - 44 days ago
Turkey
Member Since: Sep 2009
Member Points: 142

nnvon, I recommend you contact the site administrators about this.

Beroz, that book sounds so good but I'm not getting any new books untill I'm done with ChessMentor lessons - which may be never! There are so many.

by flamethro274 - 44 days ago
St Louis, Missouri United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 140

IM Silman's "How to Reassess Your Chess" is also a great book that teaches you not only how to play like a pro, but how to plan, which is neglected in many other books.  This is arguably the best book on the middlegame out there.  I went from 50th place in the 2008 State Championships to 1st in the 2009 State Championships after reading that book!

by Glamazon - 44 days ago
Paradise Falls, Texas United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 49

Just wanted to add my 2 cents worth on the Petroff aka The Russian Game. Has anyone run into the Cochrane Gambit lately or is it just too weak?Innocent

by Beroz - 44 days ago
Stockholm Sweden
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 28

Dont forget Silman's wonderful book: Silman's complete endgame course, endgame explained in such a way that you forget how boring it is!

Just one reflection, IM Silman, you must have lost a lot of quarters if you managed to raise your level considerably by playing those boys, in my humble experience, its very difficult to learn anything substantial just by playing blitz games, but then again, I am not a master and you are.

Thanks for superb lectures here and books!

Regards

by PhilipN - 44 days ago
Oregon United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 834

Stefan, in a few years you'll be able to get a driver's license, and then you can make regular 40-mile trips (as in perhaps a few times a month) to play otb.  I know how far that is, because I go over 60 miles (each way) once a week to go to piano lessons.  However, I think you're lucky to have Harvard Square so close (there aren't any "chess places" for players like me-who are too old to play scholastic-anywhere near that close to where I live).  Do your parents ever go that way (shopping, business, etc.)?  You could ask them to let you pass the time there!

by Vinzent_Zeppelin - 44 days ago
United States
Member Since: Sep 2009
Member Points: 10

Indeed, I don't believe it is necessary to belong to a school chess club in order to participate in scholastic tournaments -- the club in my high school did not have the means to travel out-of-town to the state tournament, but my friend and I went anyway as our own team, accompanied and sponsored by an older TD we knew who wasn't affiliated with our school club.

by Jobito - 44 days ago
Abuja Nigeria
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 2
Personally, i don't undestand why its so hard for people from our side of the map to play on-line chess. I just don't want to run into conclusions but it seeems the ISP in our area is not at all convinient for such on-line activity. is there a way Chess.com can do any thing about the problem? We've got really good hands over here you know? Thanks
by obregon26 - 45 days ago
Northern Virginia United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 401

IM Silman,

            Just by any chance, would you know how I can get Alisa Melekhina's e-mail or contact information?  I'm just on of her growing number of fans and I want to send her messages of support.  Thank you.

by jpd303 - 45 days ago
west virginia United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 1486

im not sure if one needs to have official ties to a school in order to participate in scholastic chess tournaments.  someone please correct me if im wrong though dont quote me.  My high school dropped our chess club my senior year for funding reasons, so local businesses sponsored 4 of us to go to the state tournament ( '97 Wv State Scholastic's, our team got 5th place overall [if i remember right], and i tied 2nd-9th, 7th on tie breaks.)  but im not sure if the officials understood that we were just "the lewis county chess club," and not "the lewis county HIGH SCHOOL chess club."

by nnvon - 45 days ago
lagos Nigeria
Member Since: Oct 2009
Member Points: 7

i dont mean to sound too naive Anlamk but could u pls tell me how to pay for the membership as am in nigeria n really dont know how cos am in interested.thanks

by AnlamK - 45 days ago
Turkey
Member Since: Sep 2009
Member Points: 142

I just want to comment on Stefan's question:

IM Silman (for understandable reasons) maybe didn't want to promote his books. But let me suggest his book Amateur's Mind as a starting point. Let me tell you something: this book has helped me TREMENDOUSLY. It's so weird that there is a vast gap in literature in teaching beginning players positional chess. Amateur's Mind goes a long way in filling that gap.

Before this book, I would be just mystified by the middle game. (There are no forced moves - so what to do?) I'm still mystified by A LOT of positions but at least I understand some and I know how to make the effort.

I would also recommend his other book How To Reassess Your Chess but this book is a bit more advanced. When I read it, I didn't get most of the material. And I have this habit of wanting to know why every move was played the way it was.

For this reason, I recommend a yearly membership to chess.com - IM Silman has a lot of lessons in ChessMentor. They are very well prepared and some even cover the same games as the ones in his books. (Sadly, not all the modules are as good as Silman's :(. Mr. Silman, any new modules?) For roughly 100$ for the year, it's well worth it (much better than having 5 chess books which would also roughly cost $100. Plus, you get the tactics trainer, which is MUCH better than any tactics book as it makes training so much hassle-free and addictive).

I know it may be hard to convince your parents to buy you a membership to a website (as they may be a bit old-fashioned and not know enough about the internet) but hey, why don't you get a temporary job?

Regards.

 

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