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6th July 2007, 10:28pm
#1
by vernon
Coweta,OK United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 203

i was introduced to this opening and it has helped me alot i have won every game i played using it so far.It sets up and amazing offence and wonderful defence you should give it a try.

Good luck with it.Laughing

6th July 2007, 10:38pm
#2
by andy
Oro Valley, AZ United States
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 348

Good job. I am wondering when this started to be called the 'Barcza', though. I have always seen this opening referred to as the King's Indian Attack (and the Wikipedia page for "Barcza Opening" redirects to the KIA.)

 

6th July 2007, 10:57pm
#3
by o0obruceleeo0o
Corona, CA United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 163
I also have never heard it called the Barcza.  Also, whenever I play vs 1.Nf3 they usually transpose into a Queens Gambit or English opening.
6th July 2007, 11:03pm
#4
by vernon
Coweta,OK United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 203
well the first part allowing the castle is the barcza or so ive been told and the rest is KIA and just all out warLaughing
7th July 2007, 09:03am
#5
by chessiq
Malawi
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 610

I clicked solution to see the sequence of moves that you have and I was just wondering...

Why doesn't White play 6.Nd4! - it may be followed by 7.Nc6 forking the Queen & Rook?

Similarly, On move 7, why doesn't Black play 7...Nd5! which could be followed by 8...Nc3 forking Queen & Rook?

Just wondering!

7th July 2007, 09:20am
#6
by nyarlathotep
United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 125

It's always been the Barcza, before leading into the King's Indian. 

 

1.Nf3 2.g3 3.Bg2 4.O-O is the base Barcza, which then leads off into several different openings.  It was originally created by Gedeon Barcza (1911-1986).

 

Glad to see you're liking the Barcza, Vernon Laughing  I knew you would

7th July 2007, 02:34pm
#7
by vernon
Coweta,OK United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 203
ya i love it it helps alot and because this was a game i played with my brother and he doesnt know about all of that
7th July 2007, 04:00pm
#8
by chessmess
United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 6

This is a cool opening.  But after black plays 26...Nd5, why doesn't white play 27. Qxd8?  Then white would have black's queen and put the king in check.  White can then take black's knight at d5, too.  I don't know - maybe that move would be too brash?

8th July 2007, 08:32pm
#9
by vernon
Coweta,OK United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 203
your right but i didnt even notice it at the time
18th July 2007, 12:35pm
#10
by migue4
Brazil
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 3
cool! however why can"t balack play 20.be3+ and take whites queen and the game? just wondering... please let me know your opinion.
18th July 2007, 12:44pm
#11
by vernon
Coweta,OK United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 203
he cant take the queen my pawn is in the way
18th July 2007, 03:18pm
#12
by migue4
Brazil
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 3
black 20... bxe3+ takes the pawn with his bishop backed by the knight. says check and attacks the queen at the same time winning the game. any comments? please let me know
18th July 2007, 08:32pm
#13
by vernon
Coweta,OK United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 203
oh wow that was a great observation thanks and i dont know why he didnt he is just learnin to play practically and didnt c it i guess
18th July 2007, 09:48pm
#14
by Jimmie
Coweta,OK United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 12
nice way 2 checkmate
18th July 2007, 10:57pm
#15
by Koochk
Boulder, CO United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1
I've always been a fan of the Barcza variation known as the Nimzowitsch Opening, where as a second move you fianchetto on the opposite side.  The major downside that I haven't been able to overcome with the regular or variation is the inability to reinforce the center, usually leading to an overall loss.
 

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