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defenserulz

Here is a sample game:

Suggestions for avoiding this opening piece loss?  I resigned after the piece loss was inevitable.
 

defenserulz

OK, nevermind.  Just don't move the Queen right?

squareofthepawn

What was time control? You were probably just worried that the knight was pinned to the Queen. She needed to be there for defense of knight though. Yeah, just don't move Queen.

tmkroll

There's a saying that goes g6 and e6 don't mix. The Dragon is played with g6 and d6. When you push g6 after e6 you've weakened the f6 square which your opponent is using against you here. You could have developed the Bishop to e7 and avoided the whole problem.

Nemo96

Why would you move the queen and leave a piece hanging. Is this bullet?

defenserulz
Nemo96 wrote:

Why would you move the queen and leave a piece hanging. Is this bullet?

Blitz :(

MSC157

*Sicilian

DiogenesDue

I've Been Getting My Scicilian Destroyed

Try penicillin.

Fredrocke

Thats the weakness to the Sicilian dragon! your opponent saw it, and exposed it

ThrillerFan
Fredrocke wrote:

Thats the weakness to the Sicilian dragon! your opponent saw it, and exposed it

No, that's the ineptitude of the player that played Black in this game along with the ineptitude of the last poster even thinking this is a dragon at all.

As was already mentioned, moving both e6 and g6, dragon or not, is a bad idea because it severely weakens not just f6, but the whole dark-square complex.

The Dragon is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 (NOT 2.Bc4) d6 3.d4 (White never played this, he went into a not-so-good Anti-Sicilian with Bc4 and d3) cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6.

Just because you play similar moves to an opening doesn't mean you played that opening.  In other words, if White plays e4, and Black plays c5, g6, and Bg7, that doesn't automatically constitute a dragon.  Openings are not based on moves by one side, except extremely unorthodox openings, like the Grob, which is, simply put, 1.g4.

All this game is is a very bad version of a Closed Sicilian with horrible replies (...a6, ...e6/...g6 combined, etc) by Black.  If Black is going to play 2...d6 against 2.Bc4, he should develop his Knight to c6 and either Fianchetto the Dark-Squared Bishop or else play an early e6 (but specifically NOT BOTH!), swing his other knight out to f6, and simply remain solid, proving that White has nothing for his retarded development.

jivvi

12... Qd4, and if 13. c3 Qe5. That way the knight is still defended by the queen, but not pinned to it.

12... h6 also isn't bad.

ViktorHNielsen

As someone already mentioned, e6 and g6 is no-go, just as g3 and e3. If you like dragon sicilians, play g6, and wait for Ng5 before playing e6 if needed (castling is "always" better, Ne5 is sometimes better).

Talfan1

stick with it youve got some good pointers its just that the Sicilian is a beautiful but sometimes cruel lover get her wrong you get a beating get her right and its a match made in heaven

erik

Play the pirc!

Likhit1
erik wrote:

Play the pirc!

I thought you weren't allowed to advertize.

Till_98

what is the scicilian? Dont even know it...

satanichess

sicilianka no good ggg

MSC157

You are always allowed to advertise Slovenian GMs, no matter what the rules say. :)

mates-a-lot

Shouldnt play e6 with d6 and g6. Also why not put the Knight at d7 instead of c6?! It would of added support and prevents the doubled pawns. This setup has made your light squared bishop useless. Recover with b5 and when you dont use e6 you can move the queen to c7. Activate your pieces! The queen moved was a blunder and h6 was better. Best is to not play to where you get in a bind

SoulEater001

As a general rule, try to develop some pieces in the first five moves, instead of playing solely pawn moves! White's 2.Bc4 looked a bit suspect, and I think that moves like e6, Nc6, Nge7, preparing a quick d5 break (and just getting the pieces out) would have been quite strong against such an ungainly set-up. 
As for saving the piece, 10..h6 would have left you in a favourable position: once his dark squared bishop comes off the board, your position looks fine!