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opening from GM Nick de Firmian's who is a 3-time USA Chess Champion Mco-15
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That exact sequence of moves is given in the second Polerio codex dating from the 1600's... a bit more than 400 years ago. Where does GM de Firmian come into the picture?
blueemu wrote:
That exact sequence of moves is given in the second Polerio codex dating from the 1600's... nearly 400 years ago. Where does GM de Firmian come into the picture?
Exactly
he has a book filled with openings,this one has been around for a long time.
p.s. most people hate the kings gambit, even bobby fisher.
yes it si called the chess players bible, but Mckay's chess llibery has in under their name.
i did know about that 90% stuff.
zltbchess wrote:
yes it si called the chess players bible, but Mckay's chess llibery has in under their name.
It is indeed called "the chess-player's bible"... and like the bible, it is very difficult for an untrained person to properly understand or appreciate.
What use to you is a line that ends in +/= if you don't understand WHY it's +/=, what the advantage consists of, or how to make use of that advantage?
You would get a lot more use out of studying basic tactics, combinations, model mates, endgames, pawn structures and general opening principles... not specific opening variations which are unlikely to arise in your own games anyway.
here blueemu it say on the front these exact words: McKay Chess Library, Modern Chess Openings 15 Edition
NIck de Firmian
3-Time us chess champion
ALGEBRAIC NOTATION
Completely Revised and updated
it is a good book for me
I don't know... I prefer Bc4 in my King's Gambit
Why do you care about MCO so much? You are not ready for it! Even if you magically memorized every single line mentioned in MCO (which would be very difficult), you still wouldn't improve your game significantly (and I mean not even by 100 points). You need to understand how to play the positions arising for the opening, because otherwise "slight advantage to white" will mean absolutely nothing to you. At the beginner lever, slight advantages are blown almost every move, and you expect to hold that slight advantage all the way to the win without understanding the position? My advice to you is to forget opening databases/books exist (unless they teach ideas not variations) until you're at least 1400 USCF. You need to learn positional and tactical ideas, not endless variations which mean nothing to an untrained eye.
Estragon wrote:
zltbchess wrote:
here blueemu it say on the front these exact words: McKay Chess Library, Modern Chess Openings 15 Edition
NIck de Firmian
3-Time us chess champion
ALGEBRAIC NOTATION
Completely Revised and updated
Yes, they ALL say that - nobody is going to buy a new book advertised as "with 10% new content!"
But if you take yours and find someone with the previous edition to compare, you will find 90% was simply carried over. The new material will be in the most common lines like the Sicilian and Ruy Lopez, and the lines which were always changing like the Meran or Winawer Poisoned Pawn or Nadjorf Poisoned Pawn, etc.
Be sure to check out the footnotes, too! You will be shocked at how many have simply been copied from the last one, only the numbering changes.
Is this supposed to be shocking? It only makes sense to only update the openings that are changing. Some parts of opening theory change all the time and others only occasionally. I agree it's probably not a good investment to purchase the new edition every single time it comes out but anyone who has ever had to buy college textbooks can tell you that.
Estragon wrote:
zltbchess wrote:
here blueemu it say on the front these exact words: McKay Chess Library, Modern Chess Openings 15 Edition
NIck de Firmian
3-Time us chess champion
ALGEBRAIC NOTATION
Completely Revised and updated
Yes, they ALL say that - nobody is going to buy a new book advertised as "with 10% new content!"
But if you take yours and find someone with the previous edition to compare, you will find 90% was simply carried over. The new material will be in the most common lines like the Sicilian and Ruy Lopez, and the lines which were always changing like the Meran or Winawer Poisoned Pawn or Nadjorf Poisoned Pawn, etc.
Be sure to check out the footnotes, too! You will be shocked at how many have simply been copied from the last one, only the numbering changes.
well i did, and LOTs of other people.
zltbchess wrote:
yes it si called the chess players bible, but Mckay's chess llibery has in under their name.
I was told that Avrukh's 1. d4 volumes are like the bible! Sadly, they do not mention the kings gambit. I wonder why...
shepi13 wrote:
I was told that Avrukh's 1. d4 volumes are like the bible! Sadly, they do not mention the kings gambit.
Neither does the Bible. So they are alike in that sense...
lol
Mantis-Technique wrote:
Estragon wrote:
zltbchess wrote:
here blueemu it say on the front these exact words: McKay Chess Library, Modern Chess Openings 15 Edition
NIck de Firmian
3-Time us chess champion
ALGEBRAIC NOTATION
Completely Revised and updated
Yes, they ALL say that - nobody is going to buy a new book advertised as "with 10% new content!"
But if you take yours and find someone with the previous edition to compare, you will find 90% was simply carried over. The new material will be in the most common lines like the Sicilian and Ruy Lopez, and the lines which were always changing like the Meran or Winawer Poisoned Pawn or Nadjorf Poisoned Pawn, etc.
Be sure to check out the footnotes, too! You will be shocked at how many have simply been copied from the last one, only the numbering changes.
Is this supposed to be shocking? It only makes sense to only update the openings that are changing. Some parts of opening theory change all the time and others only occasionally. I agree it's probably not a good investment to purchase the new edition every single time it comes out but anyone who has ever had to buy college textbooks can tell you that.
zltbchess wrote:
Mantis-Technique wrote:
Estragon wrote:
zltbchess wrote:
here blueemu it say on the front these exact words: McKay Chess Library, Modern Chess Openings 15 Edition
NIck de Firmian
3-Time us chess champion
ALGEBRAIC NOTATION
Completely Revised and updated
Yes, they ALL say that - nobody is going to buy a new book advertised as "with 10% new content!"
But if you take yours and find someone with the previous edition to compare, you will find 90% was simply carried over. The new material will be in the most common lines like the Sicilian and Ruy Lopez, and the lines which were always changing like the Meran or Winawer Poisoned Pawn or Nadjorf Poisoned Pawn, etc.
Be sure to check out the footnotes, too! You will be shocked at how many have simply been copied from the last one, only the numbering changes.
Is this supposed to be shocking? It only makes sense to only update the openings that are changing. Some parts of opening theory change all the time and others only occasionally. I agree it's probably not a good investment to purchase the new edition every single time it comes out but anyone who has ever had to buy college textbooks can tell you that.
yes they put the updates on them.
kings gambit: 1 e4 e5 2 f4 exf4 3 Nf3 g5