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QGA line bad for black, but how to win?

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Dutchday
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Jan 11, 2013
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#21

Well, as long as any questions you had were answered then. 

ajian
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Jan 11, 2013
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#22
Dutchday wrote:

Ajian, that is a totally different line and not your initial question. Understand my confusion.

Black doesn't have to play 9...e6, there are other moves like 9...Bd5.

Looking at the 9...e6 line for a moment, there might be 11...Be4 12.Rb2 c6, with a solid wall. My engine also likes 12...Qd5 but I don't know.

Your line with g6-h6-Kg8 looks a little awkward for black. Costs time.

 

by the way if black plays Bd5 then Bf3 might give the white attack more force with e6 breaks coming in. Here's a game I played off chess.com



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Jan 11, 2013
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#23

So, on #25, why not 12...e6 13.Bxf8 Nxf8 when white is more or less a pawn down for nothing?

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Jan 12, 2013
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#24

what about an attempt to take over d6 and the f5 break? by the way, if this 4.Nc3 line is bad, then can you show me how to get compensation for the IQP in this line?

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Jan 12, 2013
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#25
ajian wrote:

what about an attempt to take over d6 and the f5 break? by the way, if this 4.Nc3 line is bad, then can you show me how to get compensation for the IQP in this line?

I don't really get you.

In the middlegame, the IQP is a strength, not a weakness. Just learn how to handle IQP positions both sides of the board- this is essential knowledge for every chessplayer, much more useful than learning openings.

In your line, 10...b6? is a lemon. Black is in horrible shape after the simple 11.d5 (probably losing by force already).

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Jan 12, 2013
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#26
pfren wrote:
ajian wrote:

what about an attempt to take over d6 and the f5 break? by the way, if this 4.Nc3 line is bad, then can you show me how to get compensation for the IQP in this line?

I don't really get you.

In the middlegame, the IQP is a strength, not a weakness. Just learn how to handle IQP positions both sides of the board- this is essential knowledge for every chessplayer, much more useful than learning openings.

In your line, 10...b6? is a lemon. Black is in horrible shape after the simple 11.d5 (probably losing by force already).

I know, but if I can't use my advantage, I have a horrible endgame.

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Jan 12, 2013
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#27

True, horrible play frequently gives horrible endgames. So?