One of the positions I am facing right now is below. I don't want to trade queens, so my plan is 4. Nd2 Qg4 5.f3 Qh5 then what?
But even if I can avoid trading queens, Black's queen being present on the kingside ruins my chances to attack his future castled position. What would you recommend?
white is clearly winning because black hasnt managed to develop anything.
really you shouldnt ignore your opponents moves. they matter.
The first diagram was just to introduce the formation. The problem I face is above
i missed that...i just learned this opening a few days ago, and everybody emphasizes the quick attack on the kingside. what would you recommend doing after black plays Qd7?
well frankly i dont like the opening at all. 2. e3 is way too passive for me i never would have played that. SO i probably wouldnt give you a good stonewally type of move. If i were white in this position i would play Nf3.
Could you possibly increase the pomposity quotient a few units? Many are anxious to see how big an ass you can be.e
A King's Indian setup for black neutralizes the stonewall. That's why I quit playing the stonewall.
well frankly i dont like the opening at all. 2. e3 is way too passive for me i never would have played that. SO i probably wouldnt give you a good stonewally type of move. If i were white in this position iowould play Nf3.
Could you possibly increase the pomposity quotient a few units? Many are anxious to see how big an ass you can be.e
are you trying to say that it makes me superior that I dont like the stonewall? That sounds kinda silly. Its just chess man...and its just an opening...people have their preferences.
since we are on the subject of ass, lets observe the fact that theres only one person so far in all these posts that actually insulted anyone. Who might that be?
no,i'm saying thaat you answered the question in such a way that it gives you thhe ego boost you obviously need at the expense of the OP.
One of the positions I am facing right now is below. I don't want to trade queens, so my plan is 4. Nd2 Qg4 5.f3 Qh5 then what?
But even if I can avoid trading queens, Black's queen being present on the kingside ruins my chances to attack his future castled position. What would you recommend?
You havent completed your development, and you have a dark squared bishop that you will need to figure out where to place, and you want to know how to attack?
If you want tpo push another pawn (bad idea) I'm taking the g2 pawn.
Before you can attack, you need to learn how to play the opening.
D-rose-1 wrote:
One of the positions I am facing right now is below. I don't want to trade queens, so my plan is 4. Nd2 Qg4 5.f3 Qh5 then what?
But even if I can avoid trading queens, Black's queen being present on the kingside ruins my chances to attack his future castled position. What would you recommend?
Trade queens! Black will be at a major disadvantage in development. You can open the center with e4, castle long, and gain a quick attack
"Chess stuff" is people stuff.You know how you phrase your answers. You're either deliberately obtuse, or you're lying to yourself.
Why are people complaining about Fiveofswords' replies? He sounds reasonable to me (I had some of the same questions as the OP). It's okay to express doubts about the Stonewall Attack, while at the same time commenting on some of its characteristics.
So many people on this site seem to grab at straws, looking for reasons to take offense.
One of the positions I am facing right now is below. I don't want to trade queens, so my plan is 4. Nd2 Qg4 5.f3 Qh5 then what?
But even if I can avoid trading queens, Black's queen being present on the kingside ruins my chances to attack his future castled position. What would you recommend?
You havent completed your development, and you have a dark squared bishop that you will need to figure out where to place, and you want to know how to attack?
If you want tpo push another pawn (bad idea) I'm taking the g2 pawn.
Before you can attack, you need to learn how to play the opening.
Expanding on this good advice: One of the principles of chess that you must consider before you move on is that you must develop all of your pieces before you start your attack. You will begin to recognize your opponents' attacks as premature when they only have a few pieces developed, and you'll spend your time figuring out not only how to defend, but also how to punish them. A corollary to this principle comes from Tarrasch (I think): If one piece is badly placed, your whole game is bad.
Swords knows what he's doing. What this site has in abundance is players with slightly more ability than the people wHO ask questions in these thrEADS who are SHArpening their knives AND READY TO pounce!
The stonewall have been quite popular till now in this olympiad, seen it at least 5 times... But yeah he fianchettos and you can start banging your head against a wall
Fiveofswords:
"I just glanced at the post and saw that he didnt have any moves at all for black. And that made me feel like he had an incorrect chess approach. Cause you should adapt your moves based on what the other guy is doing."
I didn't put any moves for black because the post is about the standard stonewall formation and I just wanted to show it in case somebody didn't know what it looks like. I never said I wanted to continue playing the same moves. I know I don't have as much experience, so I was asking everybody for advice on HOW TO ADAPT to the moves my opponent makes. You recommended Nf3 but gave no reasoning behind it.
ok but an opening NEEDS particular moves from your opponent. Its not the opening unless they also played certian moves. I will grant that the stonewall is sortof a system opening and it could be played against a variety of different things...but you are going way overkill into that attitude of thinking especially if you are pondering how to set up the stonewall attack on blacks castled king long before black can even legally castle.
why nf3? well it develops a knight...makes 0-0 legal which seems like a good response to Qg4. Also it may have ideas of using Ne5 sometimes gaining time on the black queen.
ok thanks
Well I guess I am stonewalled
In general terms people who follow a certain system of development tend to be blind to any critisism on that system. Specially London and Reversed Stonewall players tend to think that their system must lead to advantage by force because what other way of development does black have then to just simply walk into their attack on the h-file ?
The reversed Stonewall is actually a worse opening then the proper Stonewall mainly because black did not play d5 yet and thus white has no control over the e5 square. Without control over the e5 square you are just waiting for black to play e5 and blow up your formation an example is shown in post #11 by cornbeef
So i recently learned the stonewall attack, which is very effective against average players. Most have not seen the opening often, so they do not react to the attack that I am building. However, i have faced some normal moves that threaten to break down my attack plan without the opponent knowing it.
Here is the standard stonewall formation: