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AlxMaster

It's been 6 months since I last logged in...

People are still discussing the exact same thing.

nameno1had

The debate will likely rage on, no matter how much data is presented. It is like asking people what their favorite colors are and then for them to say why they think they are the best...

Ubik42
nameno1had wrote:

The debate will likely rage on, no matter how much data is presented. It is like asking people what their favorite colors are and then for them to say why they think they are the best...

In other words...e4 is better than d4?

nameno1had

Until people can play as well as engines and chess is solved to the point to distinguish a clear best, first move, the debate will rage on and the game likely won't ever be long enough for it to matter.

Stupid question, has anyone here asked themselves, I wonder if I would have played e4 instead of d4 or vice versa that, you might have won the game ?

I am sure that it has been asked before. I don't mean that you asked it because, you though your experience versus your opponent's in your past games, after that first move was played, would have made a difference out of familiarity with the systems that are common place afterward.

I mean you asked the question because, you simply thought that somehow that first made all of the difference and gave you the key advantage for you to win, inspite of what all of the other moves after it was played were, by both players.

I am thinking that if you thought that picking e4 or d4, in spite what ever else gets played, is what makes the diference in a chess, I am thinking you need to go back and study chess, quite a bit more.  Hopefully one day, you'll realize that it isn't the first step that gets you to your destination but, it is all of them. Taking the first and good first step is important but, the rest of them that come afterward have more of an overall impact than the first one you choose, in dictating the overall results of your journey.

Ubik42
Ubik42

So are we all agreed, then? d4 is better?

nameno1had

I think the following dialogue would be more interesting:

John Q Public: So you think e4 is better ?

Me: Sure...

John Doe: So you think d4 is better ?

Me: Sure...

Radical_Drift
Ubik42 wrote:
 

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Ubik42
chessman1504 wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
 

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I am afraid you will have to elaborate.

Radical_Drift
Ubik42 wrote:
chessman1504 wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
 

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I am afraid you will have to elaborate.

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ajian

stop

Radical_Drift
ajian wrote:

stop

I am afraid you will have to elaborate.

Ubik42
chessman1504 wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
chessman1504 wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
 

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I am afraid you will have to elaborate.

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OK, see, for example, what is the 4th question mark in reference to? Do you see where I am going with this?

Radical_Drift
Ubik42 wrote:
chessman1504 wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
chessman1504 wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
 

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I am afraid you will have to elaborate.

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OK, see, for example, what is the 4th question mark in reference to? Do you see where I am going with this?

Yes.

Ubik42

I will take the "yes" as an apology. You are forgiven.

Soccersoccer

why d4 is better than e4 it's NOT

nameno1had

At this point, I might as well tell everyone what they want to hear and agree with them...it appears to be the only thing they will accept...

I have tried to get people here to broaden their horizons a bit. Think of this as me leading by example...lol

Irontiger
Soccersoccer wrote:

why d4 is better than e4 it's NOT

Pretty much a moot point anyways, since 1.h3 trumps them all.

varelse1

Irontiger wrote:

Soccersoccer wrote:

why d4 is better than e4 it's NOT

Pretty much a moot point anyways, since 1.h3 trumps them all.

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Well. No point in stating the obvious!

AlxMaster

Why both e4 and d4 are bad:

 

The only correct move is: