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najdorf96

Heh. I like to think that most of us posting (on this particular topic/thread) are, by the virtue of going insofar, as putting forth varied opinions, searching for their own chessic truth. It does matter which pawn you pick to open with. It does matter which variations/opening you follow it with.

What doesn't matter is, is if you think it's the best move or line. Why? Simply, it takes two to "tango". Styles, Experience, Ability, Will, Talent and State of Being, make an game. Not Inferior, Equal, Balanced, Slightly advantageous (etc) openings or moves.

DeadlyKingV
AlxMaster escribió:

Why both e4 and d4 are bad:

 

 

 

The only correct move is:

 



Lol, you make my day

Wind

e4 today, tomorrow and forever.

Wind

AlxMaster wrote:

Why both e4 and d4 are bad:

 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Yup that was hilarious. I wish I could be so witty.

MervynS

An opinion from an 1. e4 player:

http://en.chessbase.com/post/1-e4-or-1-d4-which-is-the-better-move

Yaroslavl

If you think about it a better move than e4 or d4 is Nf3 for the following reasons:

1. Develops a piece to its natural and almost always its best square

2. The N is striving for control of d4 and e5

3. Unlike d4 and e4, Nf3 does not create a target pawn on  a central square (d4 or e4) for Black to shoot at.

4. Prevents 1...e5 by Black

5. Keeps Black guessing how White will develop his pawns at d2 and e2.  In other words, does not reveal to Black what White's strategy for center control with his pawns at d2 and e2 will be

Irontiger
Yaroslavl wrote:

If you think about it a better move than e4 or d4 is Nf3 for the following reasons:

1. Develops a piece to its natural and almost always its best square

2. The N is striving for control of d4 and e5

3. Unlike d4 and e4, Nf3 does not create a target pawn on  a central square (d4 or e4) for Black to shoot at.

4. Prevents 1...e5 by Black

5. Keeps Black guessing how White will develop his pawns at d2 and e2.  In other words, does not reveal to Black what White's strategy for center control with his pawns at d2 and e2 will be

And remember this comes from a 2500+ player.

ozzie_c_cobblepot

Personally I play 1.d4. When playing black, it's more difficult for me to face 1.d4 than 1.e4.

You know, for what it's worth.

JGambit

An interesting note here about myself. (I love talking about myself)

I always thought I had more problems with d4, once I got premium I see that I am 46.7% wins against d4 and only 38.7% wins against e4

even as an e4 players I've always had a respect for d4 thinking it to be best by test and objectively stronger. I always figured that after d4 the queen is put to good work while releasing a bishop whereas after e4 a bishop is released but none of the sqaures that the queen is released to are any good for it.

My conclusion is at the intersection of patzer ave and woodpusher st it hardly matters.

Could you beat Magnus if he gave you two starting moves? unless you are a GM likely not.

ajian

Redo: e4 is not good



cosmicharmonic

1. g4!! leads to fun and wicked tactical action.

Somel

well for me... 1.d4 = is looking forward for positional plays in the opening while 1.e4 = is looking forward for tactical plays in the opening.
im not saying that one is bad or good.. but when I play 1.d4 I really get COMFORTABLE in my game for whatever my oppenent replys Laughing
just saying !  

Optimissed

Hi

1. e4
c52. Nf3Nc63. d4cxd44. Nxd4Nf65. Nc3e56. Ndb5d67. Bc4 maybe. If I'm not getting my lines mixed up from 20 years ago, that's a small but solid edge to white. But I've played 1. d4 for years now.

Optimissed

Am I getting the lines mixed up Pfren? Is there a similar line? Maybe it was the Pelican. Can't remember what that was but I thought I used to play Bc4. Looking at the position, maybe it was Nd5? I know there is some trick in a very similar position, which leads to a solid edge for white ... nothing flashy but black is really fighting for a draw. I used to play it a lot against the booked up whizz kids 25 years ago when chess was new to me but I still had a photographic memory. That's long gone.

Optimissed

Regarding the O.P. I've always found e4 to be more drawish than d4. Undoubtedly, e4 tends more towards tactics but often they resolve themselves into equality. I find the game is more unbalanced with 1 d4 .. so more chances to play for a win, albeit not in any sort of flashy way.

Optimissed
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Personally I play 1.d4. When playing black, it's more difficult for me to face 1.d4 than 1.e4.

You know, for what it's worth.>>

Totally agree. 

MrDamonSmith
pfren wrote:

d4 is better than e4 because patzers like blaming their openings for their failures. Later on, when they switch to d4 and still lose, come to the conclusion that 1.Nh3 is the best first move by far.

This is sooo funny, but true. Hahaha

Edit: Then, after 1.Nf3 doesn't work out too well for them then it's on to the Bongcloud!

Optimissed

Yes that's it Pfren. Sorry I got mixed up about that line. The line was 7 ... Nd5 and I think I used to play a pawn move on move 9, maybe a5 but sometimes c5. It's all prehistory now. 

cosmicharmonic

such minutiae

you people take the fun out of it all.