Is there no limit to the number of concurrent online games?

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paulski66

I've been trying to get some new online games going tonight. Almost every time I try to issue a challenge, I get paired with the same individual. This individual must be sitting there issuing challenge after challenge...he has gone from 1900 (!) open games to 3200 + (!) open games just this evening. In other words, he has added 1300 games tonight. I have two open games against him, and have aborted maybe 10 or so others (I have no desire to play 10 concurrent games against the same player).

Of the two games that I hve with him, he has not moved yet in the several hours since the games started.

What's up with this? This seems like ridiculous, highly trollish behavior...not to mention extremely annoying.

notmtwain

I agree this seems ridiculous.  The profile of the player Ramon Palatan shows that he has a huge number of games at present.

There is one statistic that 3% of his games in the last 90 days have had timeouts.  I don't know if this means he has simply taken a vacation timeout or if he has overstepped the time limit.

Many of his recent opponents resign after only 1 or 2 moves.

His strategy, whatever it is, appears to be working. 

NomadicKnight

3200 games?! Insane...

notmtwain

He is up to 3,674 current games. So far today, out of 11 completed games, he has won 7 games in less than 3 moves.

jayfunk13
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ChessinBlackandWhite

While it seems a bit much and can be annoying, I have played plenty of people who had less than 10 games going and still used all of their time for every move. There is no solid coalation between number of games and move time so i think it is fine to have that many. If there should be any limit it should be to limit the number of games between the same people at the same time to something like 3 maybe. That would avoid the problem you are having with him

notmtwain
MichaelPorcelli wrote:

While it seems a bit much and can be annoying, I have played plenty of people who had less than 10 games going and still used all of their time for every move. There is no solid coalation between number of games and move time so i think it is fine to have that many. If there should be any limit it should be to limit the number of games between the same people at the same time to something like 3 maybe. That would avoid the problem you are having with him

A bit much? With that many games, assuming they are all 3 days per move and that all opponents take their full 3 days to reply, he has to play more than 25 moves an hour 24 hours a day 7 days a week to keep up.  

ChessinBlackandWhite
notmtwain wrote:
MichaelPorcelli wrote:

While it seems a bit much and can be annoying, I have played plenty of people who had less than 10 games going and still used all of their time for every move. There is no solid coalation between number of games and move time so i think it is fine to have that many. If there should be any limit it should be to limit the number of games between the same people at the same time to something like 3 maybe. That would avoid the problem you are having with him

A bit much? With that many games, assuming they are all 3 days per move and that all opponents take their full 3 days to reply, he has to play more than 25 moves an hour 24 hours a day 7 days a week to keep up.  

yes but my point is that is his choice and does not actually affect the person he is playing

jayfunk13

I can't believe you're making an argument for his guy. It took him 3days to play 1.e4!!! 

"While it seems a bit much and can be annoying, I have played plenty of people who had less than 10 games going and still used all of their time for every move"   

If anything you just made a case for not being able to play 3,500 games at once.

"There is no solid coalation between number of games and move time so i think it is fine to have that many" 

 Uh yeah yeah there is. Just look at the # of complaints this guy has against him, there also might be a thread about him somewhere if I'm correct...oh wait we're in it. 


ChessinBlackandWhite

And i have faced people with 5 games that still take 3 days to make their first move or so.

if he is not able to then he will lose on time and thats that

But the complaints are that he is using his time, which is allowed. He could do the same thing if he had only one game going. If you sign up to play s days per move then expect your opponent to play that slow, otherwise play a faster time control. I just do not understand what he "rule" he is breaking

jayfunk13

It's not about a "rule" that he's breaking which I'm well aware that he is not it's about mutal understanding that you should at least get out of the basic opening moves before you start using actual thinking time. Like I said 3 days to play his first move is ridiculous. I already sent a request for them to abort my game against him

notmtwain

He's down to 3,045 games now. He is evidently still handling the games. Today he had 14 victories and 11 defeats.

notmtwain

http://www.chess.com/members/view/ramon_palatan#games

Ramon Palatan is up to 4,919 games at present.  His rating is up to 1632 after floating around 1500 for a long time. Evidently, his 24/7 chess seems to be paying off.

CP6033

insanity! Well that's his problem, if he wants to waste all his time simply moving in correspondence chess (forget the analyzing!)he can do that. Madness, i only have 11 or 12 games on right now!

Otomun

@notmtwain: wth? One time, Ramon timed out in hundreds of games and lost nearly 1000 rating pts! You'd think he learned his lesson...

jayfunk13

I hope his heart times out and stops

derek

 

notmtwain
jayfunk13 wrote:

I hope his heart times out and stops

Lighten up Francis.

If you feel like that now, what are you going to say when you blunder a pawn on move 37 a year and a half from now?

/ Ramon is winning...

jayfunk13

the pawn blunder will turn out to be a pawn sac for a mate in 7 42 days later

paulski66
Derek wrote:

jayfunk13 wrote:

I hope his heart times out and stops

What a lovely sentiment. *rolls eyes*

We had all this with lordbobbetti and others a few years ago. The upshot seemed to be that chess.com offers unlimited concurrent correspondence games. It's one of its hooks. So if someone wants to do that... How upsetting could it possibly be?

+1

Probably my thread title is a bit misleading. Honestly, I couldn't care less if the guy has 3, or 30, or 300, or 3000 games going at a time. My issue was in being unable to get a game going with anyone else for hours on the Saturday night that this happened because Ramon was sitting there issuing challenge after challenge. A minor annayance, to be sure, but an annoyance nonetheless.

Maybe even a slight tweak to the matching algorithm would help out here. If I've been matched twice with someone and currently have two games ongoing with them, don't match me against them any more. If for some reason I decide that I want to play 16 games against the same person concurrently, it would be easy enough for me to set that up once we've been matched against each other for the first two games.