Opening, Middlegame, Endgame

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22nd June 2009, 04:17pm
#1
by Triple_A
Texas United States
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when do u know when its the opening, and the middlegame, and the engame ???

22nd June 2009, 04:19pm
#2
by sargentboomstick
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its middle game when all your peices are developed

22nd June 2009, 04:22pm
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by Triple_A
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ah cool

22nd June 2009, 04:27pm
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by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
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Generally speaking, the middlegame starts when your rooks are connected- so most of your pieces have left the back-rank. There are many definitions of when the endgame begins- it is basically when most of the material has been traded off- a lot of people say after the queens are traded, though that can happen very early, or you may enter a queen endgame!

22nd June 2009, 04:37pm
#5
by KriptikMike
Elk Grove, CA United States
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The middlegame starts when all of your pieces are developed, but there are sometimes exceptions. The endgame starts when most of the material has been traded off.

22nd June 2009, 04:49pm
#6
by Triple_A
Texas United States
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KriptikMike wrote:

The middlegame starts when all of your pieces are developed, but there are sometimes exceptions. The endgame starts when most of the material has been traded off.


 can u show me a diagram?

18th July 2009, 05:23pm
#7
by Niven42
West Lafayette, Indiana United States
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I agree with Nytik, and there was a recent forum topic about this very same thing.  Everyone there seemed to think that it should be an arbitrary number of moves, but connecting the rooks, et. al. seems to be a hallmark of finishing development.  Most of what I've read (The Complete Chessplayer, My System, Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess, Chessmaster, etc.) has backed that idea up.

18th July 2009, 05:26pm
#8
by Niven42
West Lafayette, Indiana United States
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28th July 2009, 10:23am
#9
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The best way to define each stage is to know what you have to do in each stage and when you have to do that you're at the stage.

28th July 2009, 10:55am
#10
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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One thing you will find in chess is that just as important to knowing the 'rules' is knowing the exceptions. No matter what definition you give of 'opening', 'endgame', and 'middle game', you will find there are exceptions to these definitions.

28th July 2009, 07:54pm
#11
by Triple_A
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interesting

28th July 2009, 08:14pm
#12
by Nightshadow
India
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Middlegame is when you run out of opening theory, so it can come at different times for different players.

28th July 2009, 08:38pm
#13
by Loomis
Durham, NC United States
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Nightshadow wrote:

Middlegame is when you run out of opening theory, so it can come at different times for different players.


So if I'm playing black and my opponent plays 1. c4 or 1. Nf3 I'm in the middle game? I don't think so. I think I'm best off following opening principles at this point. (Yes, I can try to transpose into a theoretical position I know, but this isn't necessarily possible.)

 

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