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I downloaded 64 bit version of Linux Mint 17 and since my desktop has Cinnamon version, I opted for Mint this time for my laptop. After using Mint for a few hours, I have a feeling it is superior to Cinnamon in usability! So there I was wrong. However, I have 3 gb ram in my laptop (core i3 processor). I hope I don't have to add more gigs to support 64 bit. I have downloaded stockfish 5 and Komodo 5 64 bit versions and assigned 2 core to stockfish too, but again, in Pychess. Is 3gb enough?
There is really no point to use a 64bit OS if you have 3GB of RAM. Unless you plan to add more RAM eventually, 32 bit is sufficiant since it can cover up to 4GB (usually around 3.5 GB less the graphic card).
The whole point of a 64bit architecture is that it can adress more than 4GB of RAM.
With your specs I would go for Linux Mint 17 Xfce 32bit. Xfce is a desktop environment that is fast and low on system ressources yet is visually appealing for the user. You would get the most out of your hardware.
Also if you are a Firefox user for exemple, the browser is only available on 32bit. So far, all apps for Linux support the 32bit architecture so there is no problem there.
Oops. Changed already!
Wrong. This applies only to windows (although there are unofficial 64-bit FF compiles as well). Almost all major Linux distros have a native 64-bit Firefox in their official repos, and the same applies for Chromium. Qupzilla and every other major browser.
XFCE4 is still a fine desktop, but it will cease to be fine soon, when it migrates to the crappy gtk3 toolkit. I'd rather go for a QT based environment (e.g KDE 4/5), and soon there will be a totally usable LXQT desktop (a mixture of LXDE and Razor-QT, currently migrating to QT5) if you want a fast, uncluttered, no-nonsense environment.
gtk2 based desktops, like cinnamon etc, ain't bad, but gtk2 is paleolithic- not just for coders, but also for end users.
so, my original question again. Is 3gb enough to run 64 bit smoothly?
Yes, of course it is...
But your actual RAM is unlikely to be 3GB, 4 GB is the likeliest scenario.
It's just the natural fact that your 32-bit OS cannot utilize more then 3GB under your current hardware config.
Thanks pfren for your corrections. As a Lubuntu user, I am waiting for LxQT too and it looks like a promising DE. It may take the crown to Xfce eventually.
Though it must be said that Linux Mint Xfce 17 runs great, I have tried it and it's buttery smooth on a 2GB RAM laptop. Xfce at this point is more ressource efficient than Cinnamon. Also, Mint 17 is LTS so if you wish you can sit on it for the remaining 3 years and an half ;)
It is more about your processor which needs to be 64x. Obviously yours is, so you are fine otherwise you would not have been able to install a 64 bit OS at all. Note that 64bit proc can install and run 32 bit applications too but the contrary can't be done.
That said, the fact that 64 bit can, depending on the OS, use more than 100GB of RAM doesn't change a damn thing for you since all you have is 3GB of RAM which a 32bit OS can adress without any problem.
Personally I use i3 for when I need to get 'sh*t' done. Xfcewhen I want to play a nice game or watch a movie and when I want to show someone that Linux is a viable option on the desktop with nice eyecandy but still more productive than win8 I show them gnome 3 or cinamon. So most of the time I use i3. I can't imagine being productive at writing code or reading and learning without a tiled window manager. Having said that, if you have less than 4 GB a 64bit install won't do you that much good. The great thing about linux is however, if you have a 64 bit install and system, you can still use 32 bit libs and compile those (or just download the bins) tools/programs you need. 32 and 64 bit software live together on my system. Then again, i have been using linux since 1998 and worked for SuSE. Later I switched to Debian, which I still find 'the distro', but since about 2 years I have switched to Arch since I love the rolling high-tech releases there. However, that is not something that I would recommend as a first distro. There are so many great chess tool on linux. They have all been named, scid for example is a great tool. For a quick game of chess these days I use pychess. Great little program, and even greater since it's written in python and python is fun to code at :) However, for the average user, you want a 64 bit system so you can adres more than 3 gb of memory.
Thanks all of you for your clarifications. I have switched to 64 bit on both my desktop (runs on core2duo - 4GB ram) and on my laptop (i3 -3gb ram). No problem in performance and I am happy to add more gigs if i need it. But the provision is now there, which is a good thing.
and may be it's a placebo effect, just may be, but i have a feeling that both the computers are snappier now. it could also be because of MATE. I have a sneaking suspicion that MATE is better than Cinnamon, again, could be placebo effect! I am not a techie but I am an advanced amateur in technology :P
Both MATE and Cinnamon are traditional gtk2 stuff- not much difference between them, performance-wise, if I had a choice I would go for MATE which is Gnome2 rising from the dead.
But still, if I had more choice I would pick none of them: KDE4 is a joy to use, LXQT is close to being completed, and power users almost always prefer a self-tuned Openbox desktop. Oh, and traditional window managers will soon be a thing from the past- the era of Wayland/Weston is approaching fast.
so many possibilities, so many options. all free from virus, and hopefully from money (though donation is welcomed and should be done to the benevolent souls out there) and infinitely more beautiful than paid OS. what a wonderful world of open source!
Good that you managed to install 64 bit OS on your motherboard.
don't mention that, i was an ignoramus :(
i realised if your motherboard supports 64 bit processors, like i3 and Core2Duo (like you suggested) it works on 64 op system too. that was a good lesson. now i am ambitious and may go for OpenSuse for my laptop!
What are the advantages of OpenSuse?
Old distro, very mature. Reliable system tools. Fast mirrors. Very good KDE implementation. No cutting edge packages in the main repos.
Disadvantages- the usual in big distros: No rolling model, so switching between versions is a tad problematic. RPM based, so building packages from source (whenever needed) is quite difficult (almost impossible for new users). A bit too polished for some people.
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