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I heard Jan is ok now , he is off-the-sauce they say : not a drop he drinks , but he got a little quiet . He turned Betty's greenhouse into a marihuana-plant and lives with some gal from Korea. They say the tube is removed from his mouth and that he's training to eat hard food again.
I really love Physics , Math and Chess . Both economics and religion are not Science and are not based on any experimental evidence.
Physics works great , we can very accurately calculate values and compare these with the experiments. Physics uses experiments to check the theory (or visaversa) , Religion does nothing like that.
The Standard Model in Physics makes a couple of commonsence assumptions about what the world is made of. They come up with abstract things like atoms,electrons and now even strings. These things most probably don't even exist,but the funny thing is , that using this model and a set of rules , we can make very accurate predictions about the results of a certain experiment. Physics is nice , but still based on some mystic assumption. That it has in common with Religion I think.
@rmurray yawned :
mathematical possibilities? something about monkeys, and typewriters, and shakespeare
Are you suggesting that eventually a group of monkeys will end up typing the lines I wrote ? It only took one you know .
I heard Jan is ok now , he is off-the-sauce they say : not a drop he drinks , but he got a little quit . He turned Betty's greenhouse into a marihuana-plant and lives with some gal from Korea. They say the tube is removed out of his mouth and he's training to eat hard food again.
perfect. a happy ending. it's like hollywood? cyberspace.?
anyway..."nothing works and no one really understand anything, even if they claim they do."
"Very much the same as in religion, lol."
There are men (and some women) who devote their lives to worshiping a "loving god." They go to school to learn how to do this worshiping. There are rituals, and ceremonies, and rules, and ...absolutes?, and when these persons attain a certain level of understanding? they become ....priests, or rabbi's or whatever, and then spend their Time, and other peoples money? educating the uniformed on how they too can achieve a connection with god (themselves). They get paid to tell fairy tales about a loving, all knowing, always caring? god.
god is always a "he". a heavenly? father? an invisible man in the sky....keeping a loving eye on His marvelous creation....planet earth. what a bunch of horseshit.
it is hilarious, and very,very sad to think this is the best that humans can come up with.
the scientific version makes a whole lot more sense....as far as it goes, and then even the scientists will admit.....this is as far as it is possible to go......
human comprehension confronts the void. if all matter and energy began at the big bang....where did it come from.....? ....where was all the matter and energy hangin' out before it arrived at this universe? That's as far as it goes.
so the universe popped into existence in it's entirety as god, and humans have been trying to understand this phenomenon since they began standing on two legs, and the result has been a lot of fairy tales, and hokum that is still screwing up the world.....now more than ever.....
a really cool guy left a message on a rock in a garden in miami....it reads "the purpose of life is to be happy" i read that, and it crystalized in my mind.....what life could be like.....for everybody
except... it will never be. humans will make sure of that.
so here i sit. contemplating the fact that an imaginary man had his face rearranged by an imaginary bull, while i contemplate the possibility that i may offer a draw to an image of a man standing on a cliff face with arms outstretched, while i contemplate whether or not mathematics has anything to do with my decision, as i look at some beautiful plants, and wonder if i can get away with murder. ?
"I fully agree with your view on the religion business " imaginary me thinks.
@TetsuoSumo wrote about Speelman admitting he's a scarecrow:
oh that is english humor, i thought john gleese is english humor
Yes , Gleese sure is and exponent. I like his humor , but I prefer Billy Connelly a Scotish standup comedian. He is loud and wild and uses rough language , not yer typical uppernose British stuff.
after watching straw dogs i gave up on trying to understand scottish accent.
I'm saving my math for the lottery. chess will have to wait.
Yes , scottish is a rough language and hard to understand for non Anglo speaking people. I understand English (and even not Gaelic Irish) pretty desent , but sometimes I have problem with the scottish tone. Luckely Billy speaks with a loud voice anyway.Sounds like he barks at you .
Mathematics (and Physics) are both discoveries. The aliens on planet Nimzo would come up with the same kind of math. Math is about a universal truth that already exists in this world. Physics is a summary of deductions made by looking at the world around us. The Nimzonians might have a different kind of Physics though.
Chess is an invention (hurray for the man that did it) , it didn't exist before. What was on HIS mind when he created it , how was it to be played ?
If a chessboard behaves like a small universe , then there must exist some form of math to describe it. No form of physics I believe.
wait wait, how can you say math is correct???
@TetsuoShima wrote :
I didn't say anywhere that math is correct.
ok i mean how can you say the aliens will have the same kind of math??
The Nimzonians would have found the theorem of Pythagoras too.
What I do on this thread is try to answer OP's question . Because I think it's difficult to find a short answer directly , I try to use descriptive examples and figurative language to express what I mean.
It is hard to be constructive , but easy to criticize any suggestion posted here. Now I see you've gotten as far as the second line in my quote and I am afraid that when I keep answering you,this will never end.
"The ancient definition of chess is that it is a fusion of sport, science and art."-Garry Kasparov.
I agree, Chess is a fusion of science and art but definitely not maths. Being good in maths never makes anyone good at chess.
I've never been adept at math, mostly because I hate the subject and don't study it as a result. However, I was a 4.0 student in college in my stellar and planetary physics classes because I loved the real-world applications of science. So while I'm decent at chess and physics, I never applied myself to the math end of things. I'm betting the only connection between the two subjects would be in visualization and memorization aspects, but you'd have to have a passion for both for this to become the case.
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