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gik-tally

descriptive notation is a confusing every square has 2 names abomination. that's why

DrSpudnik

I miss the days of R(R1)-QB1. Rac1 is so European looking.

Not really. That notation wrecks my brain. Dyslexia makes English Descriptive a kind of torture in hell.

varelse1
DrSpudnik wrote:

I miss the days of R(R1)-QB1. Rac1 is so European looking.

Not really. That notation wrecks my brain. Dyslexia makes English Descriptive a kind of torture in hell.

Dyslexics have more nuf!

DrSpudnik

Sho nuf!

long_quach
MDOC777 wrote:

Why does U.S. Chess endorse algebraic notation instead?

Joke and not a joke.

They ripped off Battleship.

Rand McNally maps are algebraic.

long_quach
VULPES_VULPES wrote:

Maybe a new notation will appear where the moving of pieces will be recorded with letters, arrows, and numbers. LOL

It already exists in Chinese Chess. I call it "dead reckoning". And it is the worst system.

Knight moves forward 2 squares and left 1 square.

N↑2←1

Elephant moves diagonally right (2 squares).

象↗

long_quach
MDOC777 wrote:

Why does U.S. Chess endorse algebraic notation instead?

It was a conspiracy by Sesame Street. It was Big Bird and The Count's idea.

long_quach
AndyClifton wrote:

The whole rest of the world was using it. I hated it till I tried it. Now I like it.

Of course, everybody was supposed to go metric back then too (as Metastable has alluded to).

Metric is a bad idea.

Everything is based on water.

When you say you weigh so many kilograms, you are actually saying, I weight so and so many drops of water (which we are made of water, but that that makes no sense.)

You would counter-balance your body-weight with stones.


In metric, distance is measured as a fraction of the Earth's circumference.

And weight is based on water. (so is temperature).

When you say you weigh so many kilograms you are saying.

Take the circumference of the earth. Divide into so many fractions.

Take a distance of that fraction of the circumference of the Earth. Make a cube container. Fill it with water.

And that's how much I weigh.

It is ridiculous.


Edit.

I am still impressed by Metric. It is very "Star Trek". An alien from another planet would communicate in that way.

The French are very cerebral. Very "Star Trek". Very ahead of its time.

long_quach
MDOC777 wrote:

I can handle algebraic, but not yet w/o a grid. Probably never. I just want to know why the switch in the 70's.

The first hand held electronic calculator came around in the 1970s. Texas Instruments come to mind, with hot Light Emitting Diodes.

It was the birth of computers.

And teachers got lazy. They give multiple choice tests that can be checked by a Scantron machine.

DrSpudnik
long_quach wrote:
MDOC777 wrote:

Why does U.S. Chess endorse algebraic notation instead?

It was a conspiracy by Sesame Street. It was Big Bird and The Count's idea.

We tried pinning it on the count but nothing added up!

And the bird wouldn't talk.

BlackKaweah
Algebraic sucks. So much easier to follow the flow of play with descriptive.
Ziryab
BlackKaweah wrote:
Algebraic sucks. So much easier to follow the flow of play with descriptive.

I’ve played blindfold with both. Algebraic is far easier.

long_quach
BlackKaweah wrote:
Algebraic sucks. So much easier to follow the flow of play with descriptive.

Descriptive Notation is more error prone.

Was that King side pieces or Queen side pieces?

And is it going to the Queen side or the King side?

And the notation is essentially putting the chess set on a Lazy Susan and turn it around for every move.

long_quach

Algebraic is logical. It is being adopted in Go.

Look at the picture in a new tab and magnify. You can still see A-T and 1-19.

long_quach

If I didn't know anything (scary thought), I would invent a Cartesian system (which is Correspondence).

I would invent something from what I know.

But having letters on the X axis and numbers on the Y axis differentiate them and make them less error prone.

Algebraic is quite genius yet quite elementary. You can almost say it is as easy as . . .

Tyler65265

this is an unusually debated topic

can someone explain to me why this matters so much to so many people

long_quach
Tyler65265 wrote:

this is an unusually debated topic

can someone explain to me why this matters so much to so many people

Communication is of vital importance.

You must have a universal method that everyone can get on board.

You don't want VHS and Betamax.

Get on board! happy

long_quach
long_quach wrote:
Tyler65265 wrote:

this is an unusually debated topic

can someone explain to me why this matters so much to so many people

Communication is of vital importance.

You must have a universal method that everyone can get on board.

You don't want VHS and Betamax.

Get on board!

I was inside FAA HQ when they decided to switch from Degrees to Radians, now that we have computers.

The default in Excel is Radians for trigonometric functions.

For calculators, Degrees.

long_quach
Tyler65265 wrote:

this is an unusually debated topic

can someone explain to me why this matters so much to so many people

I was in a hospital and the thermometers were in Celsius.

Celsius, what a dumb idea.

Fahrenheit himself set the human body temperature at 100° F. It's 98.6° F (He didn't have modern precision).

Celsius is based on boiling and freezing of water.

Water freezes at 0° C. But you can put salt on the road to lower its freezing temperature. But there is a point where no matter how much salt you put on the road, snow will still freezes anyway. That is 0° F and you will slip and fall on your driveway even if you put salt on it.

Fahrenheit is built around the temperature in our range of understanding.

How much is 100° C? Let me see. Let get get a pot, get some water, invent fire, gather wood, and boil up the water.

How much is 100° F? I am 100° F.

DrSpudnik
Tyler65265 wrote:

this is an unusually debated topic

can someone explain to me why this matters so much to so many people

It seems like the rebirth of the Waffles v. Pancakes threads of the past. They were epic!

Of course, waffles.