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ProteusIQ

I know someone has to win in Chess but there are some win which I do not find them really Win!

 

I won few games with Time out recently,One I was losing, Others I was in control! But yet I find not fair for those losing games on time out while they were winning!

Could Chess.com have an option where opponent, ones with decency and in love with chess more than Winning  allowig their opponent with Time Out not to lose with Time Out. I am sorry I am so bad at explaining.

 

If you are out there and you think, You would have give your opponent addition minutes. Please write  "I will " If not " I wont"

I Will 


Azoth

http://www.chess.com/home/echess_settings.html

Auto-Win on Time: Automatically claim victory when time runs out!

 


mr_karno
I think that if you are losing when time runs out (meaning that you therefore win) the rating should not be affected.
normajeanyates

it would work in a ideal world. here it would attract *a few* bad apples who would just ignore the game forever when they were losing (or lost interest in the game).

That's why time controls were introduced [around 1900] in the first place.


normajeanyates
and the bad apples would make a more every 2 years or so in some of those games...
Baseballfan
Azoth is right, you can set your account up so that you must "claim" every win on time. The way  mine is currently set-up, if one of my opponents goes over on time, they do not lose automatically, I must go into the game and claim the win. Now, if it's a tournament game, or someone I don't really know, I will usually claim the win the second I notice they have gone over. But in more friendly games, Im usually more lenient.
ProteusIQ
Azoth wrote:

http://www.chess.com/home/echess_settings.html

Auto-Win on Time: Automatically claim victory when time runs out!

 


 Does it allow additional time to your opponent? How does it work??


ProteusIQ
normajeanyates wrote:

it would work in a ideal world. here it would attract *a few* bad apples who would just ignore the game forever when they were losing (or lost interest in the game).

That's why time controls were introduced [around 1900] in the first place.

I know, I am not against time. Put think of games where someone is winning but his\her time is running out.Honestly I would love to see my opponent win not I when I am losing but later win on time.

 


normajeanyates
so just set autowin-on-time to off - i have it on [because i am forgetful] but i would always consider occasionally turning it off in situtions being discussed.
Baseballfan
ProteusIQ wrote: Azoth wrote:

http://www.chess.com/home/echess_settings.html

Auto-Win on Time: Automatically claim victory when time runs out!

 


 Does it allow additional time to your opponent? How does it work??


 The way it works is that after a time-out, the game just sits there. The only way to win that game is for you to actually go into it, and click "Claim win on timeout" at which point, you win the game immediatly.


ProteusIQ
Baseballfan wrote: ProteusIQ wrote: Azoth wrote:

http://www.chess.com/home/echess_settings.html

Auto-Win on Time: Automatically claim victory when time runs out!

 


 Does it allow additional time to your opponent? How does it work??


 The way it works is that after a time-out, the game just sits there. The only way to win that game is for you to actually go into it, and click "Claim win on timeout" at which point, you win the game immediatly.


 Does that mean I can still go on playing with friend with TimeOut?


kian51

Hello! my friend! each win is a win and eally a win. u teach a lesen from each play if u lose for time out then u weak in planinig for yourtime  and....

ok? Wink u will becam a grandmaster a day only try &try. goodtime...


Baseballfan
ProteusIQ wrote: Baseballfan wrote: ProteusIQ wrote: Azoth wrote:

http://www.chess.com/home/echess_settings.html

Auto-Win on Time: Automatically claim victory when time runs out!

 


 Does it allow additional time to your opponent? How does it work??


 The way it works is that after a time-out, the game just sits there. The only way to win that game is for you to actually go into it, and click "Claim win on timeout" at which point, you win the game immediatly.


 Does that mean I can still go on playing with friend with TimeOut?


 Yes, if your friend comes back on the site, and makes their move. It's like nothing happened. You get your full time, as do they on their next move.


ProteusIQ
Baseballfan wrote: ProteusIQ wrote: Baseballfan wrote: ProteusIQ wrote: Azoth wrote:

http://www.chess.com/home/echess_settings.html

Auto-Win on Time: Automatically claim victory when time runs out!

 


 Does it allow additional time to your opponent? How does it work??


 The way it works is that after a time-out, the game just sits there. The only way to win that game is for you to actually go into it, and click "Claim win on timeout" at which point, you win the game immediatly.


 Does that mean I can still go on playing with friend with TimeOut?


 Yes, if your friend comes back on the site, and makes their move. It's like nothing happened. You get your full time, as do they on their next move.


 Thank you so much baseballfan! You are the best! And everyone! thank you thank you!


Baseballfan
You're welcome ProteusIQ. Glad I could help.
Aramista

hmmm..., ok so why not have an agreement between players that you can only move a pawn one move on its first move?  or even that the Queen can only move a maximum of three squares in any direction?   or if you move a knight then your next move must be a pawn move providing of course if it is a legal move?  Tongue out

the game of Chess has been developed over centuries, accepted that the time limits started to be developed in 1861,  there are several internationally recognised governing bodies so why not submit a well considered argument to the USA body requesting that they consider changing the laws regarding time limits?   if the arguments are well founded I am sure they will give it due attention   Cool


In 1861 the first time limits, using sandglasses, were employed in a tournament match at Bristol, England. The sandglasses were later replaced by pendulums. Modern clocks, consisting of two parallel timers with a small button for a player to press after completing a move, were later employed to aid the players. A tiny latch called a flag further helped settle arguments over players exceeding time limit at the turn of the 19th century.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_chess 

I acknowledge that Wikipedia has had a cloud over it recently but those like myself that use it regularly have found a number of protocols that have become apparent since its validity was challenged all designed to increase its reliability as at the least a secondary level reference source with first level sources often cited - dbw