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taots_11

guys can you help me please to know what is the meaning of strategically position?.im dieying to know this.

dlordmagic

Putting your pieces in positions that help you implement your plans.

taots_11

thanks dlordmagic.can you give me another example?

dlordmagic

That may very game to game. Best I can do is show you a game I played and try to explain what i was doing

 

I hope this will make sense to you. Oddly enough the game was decided when I allowed the rook exchange on e3. Then the rest of the game was centered around that one passed pawn.

jaronkovich

I thing it is just like in war games strategically position forces,So to control the center of the board Smile

taots_11

thank you again dlordmagic.so you mean that if your peices control the center that means your peices in the center is in strategically position? i wait for your answer.

dlordmagic

That is a general assessment that will hold you in good sway for many games, but it has more to do with your plan of attack/defense rather than strict control of the center.

Bardu

It is not necessarily controling the center that makes a position strategic. It is rather, placing a piece in a given position in anticipation of future events. In the game dlordmagic provided, 23...Re3 is strong because it allows the rook exchange on his terms, giving him a passed pawn.

taots_11

thanks again dlordmagic and bardu.so the meaning of strategically position is placing a piece in a given position in anticipation of future events right?

dlordmagic

That is correct.

taots_11

finally i got it.thank you very much dlordmagic.

ChessSoldier

Goal - stated objective

Strategy - What needs to happen?

Tactics - How can that be done?

A strategic positioning of a piece means that it's placement is an objective that needs to be achieved in order to win.  You don't centralize pieces if you're attacking on a wing, for instance.  It's not "in anticipation of future events", it's "fulfilling a need in order to win".  The anticipation is necessary for good planning, but it has nothing to do with the definition.

taots_11

hey chesssoldier can you give us an example in the chess pieces in the chess board what is your trying to say because all of us are getting confuse of what is the meaning of strategically position of peices on the chess board.i wait for your answer.thank you.

taots_11

so what are the pieces that are in strategically position? the pawn that going to his king side or your value pieces like hourse,bishop,rook,and queen.

taots_11

tonydal what is the difference between the word strategy and the word plan?

Crazychessplaya

Strategy and plan mean more or less the same thing.

taots_11

i think they are different.

planeden

i think that the strategy is what moves you use to achieve your plan.  in tonydal's example (and forgive me if i get this wrong tonydal), i think that the plan is to attack the king on the king side.  your strategy for that plan is to move up your pawns to protect your other pieces.  so, you start moving accordingly. 

the confusion is at some point strategy and plan are more or less the same thing.  you could just as easily say that your plan is to move your pawns up on the king side.  then the strategy would be which pawn to move first.  of course, if you simply plan to move the a pawn to a4, then what is the strategy?  click a-pawn, click a4, then click submit? 

Blackadder

I would say chess stragedy  is 3 things:

1) a goal (i.e should i be playing for a win/draw in this position)

2) a plan for achieving something (i.e getting rook on the 7th)  

3) how to implement chess knowledge.

 

the first 2 of these has been discussed but the third has not.  Our chess knowledge broadly consists of rules and maxims (i.e in X-type positions, doubled rooks are a good thing, in Y-type positions Knights are better than bishops)... In positions where the tactics are too difficualt to calculate (i.e too long, too many variations, complex, etc) or where our actions will have long-term consequences (e.g. creation of passed pawns, bad bishops, etc) we will often have knowledge at hand that helps us understand the choice before us, Stragedy will be how we implement such knowledge. 

I'm not sure how clear that is, but here is an example (all positions with black to move):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The first strategical question to ask is whether Black should be trying to win these games or get a draw. Given that black is down material, I'd say black ought to take the draw.

now for the harder questions: a) should black trade rooks, b) are the 1st and 2nd and 3rd positions really that different? (e.g should we trade rooks in one of these positions but not in the other?)  c) if we dont trade our rook, what should we do with it? d) and in the meantime, what should our king be doing?

these questions can only really be awnsered by chess knoweldge (it would be difficualt for us [computers could with ease!] to calculate a forced win/draw tactically). Our chess knowledge will help us devise a stragedy, if knoweldge tells us not to trade rooks then this informs our stragedy: in what way[s] can I avoid rook trades.

kco

well, what the answer tonydal ?