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who is the best chess player of all time?


  • 2 days ago · Quote · #261

    SmyslovFan

    Again, computers don't really play chess. They don't feel pressure and have never played for the world championship. Let's stick to humans.

    Morphy revolutionized chess. He was absolutely brilliant and was, for many years, the best player on the planet. But chess, like all sports, progresses. Steinitz improved over time and eventually eclipsed Morphy.

    No player before Capa achieved +2700 performances. Morphy's best was measured at ~2350. That's an incredible achievement considering the state of chess at the time. Steinitz was slightly but measurably better than Morphy's best.

    I'm sure we've all seen players who seem to win every game brilliantly, but whose ratings are lower than their less flashy competition. Without ratings, it's easy to think the brilliant player must be better. We now know a different truth.

  • 2 days ago · Quote · #262

    rdecredico

    Luke_Snyder wrote:

    Morphy was certainly in the 2700's at age 21. The prime age for a person's chess playing on average is in his or her late 30's. (This does say a lot for Carlsen.)

    Morphy had no one to challenge him in his day, and probably got a bit lax at times. 

    Very doubtful about that rating.  Closer to 2200 is really his strength.

  • 2 days ago · Quote · #263

    windmill64

    Yes Morphy hasn't played the best chess, my opinion he was one of the most if not the most talented to play the game though.

  • 2 days ago · Quote · #264

    rdecredico

    He was seminal and the best of his day.

    Yet some people need more than reality and thus create mythos.


    But chess is about information, and today's players have more and are significantly better because of it.

     

  • 45 hours ago · Quote · #265

    kimi161

    Magnus Carlsen

  • 45 hours ago · Quote · #266

    NobbyCapeTown

    This is a non sensical question, as there is no correct answer. Where is the beginning of a circle ? Once you are way up there - you are way up there, full stop.

  • 45 hours ago · Quote · #267

    SmyslovFan

    Actually, Nobby, the answer to the best chess player of all time can be answered objectively. Kenneth Regan has shown that ratings accurately reflect objective skill, and that there is no rating inflation. In terms of pure quality of play, without regard to contributions to the game or anything else, here's the list of the top 14 players of all time, in order:

    Highest Ever Live Ratings

  • 45 hours ago · Quote · #268

    bigpoison

    Objectively?  Really?

    Why do you hate dictionaries?

  • 44 hours ago · Quote · #269

    czechsmex

    bigpoison wrote:

    Objectively?  Really?

    Why do you hate dictionaries?

    Maybe he had a 'scope on it.

  • 44 hours ago · Quote · #270

    With_every_step

    SmyslovFan wrote:

    Actually, Nobby, the answer to the best chess player of all time can be answered objectively.

    You're misinterpreting, they actually mean to imply that the answer is Nezhmetdinov, because he was a good propagandist and served The Red Army well.

  • 42 hours ago · Quote · #271

    SmyslovFan

    BigPoison has found a grammatical mistake in one of my posts for the first time in over a year.

    Congratulations to BigPoison!

    I'm flattered that of all the people on this site who make grammatical errors, BP loves me the most! Why else would he so gleefully pounce on my gramatical errors.

    My mistake was a grammatical one where I deleted part of a sentence before I posted my comment. I used the correct word. 

    The elo system is an objective (yes, objective) measure of playing strength. To find the best player ever, just take a look at who has the highest FIDE rating of all time. That list is the one I posted:

    Highest Ever Live Ratings

  • 37 hours ago · Quote · #272

    Luke_Snyder

    rdecredico wrote:
    Luke_Snyder wrote:

    Morphy was certainly in the 2700's at age 21. The prime age for a person's chess playing on average is in his or her late 30's. (This does say a lot for Carlsen.)

    Morphy had no one to challenge him in his day, and probably got a bit lax at times. 

    Very doubtful about that rating.  Closer to 2200 is really his strength.

    LOL


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