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null-cipher

I won my last to games of online chess but my rating did not increase.  What gives?

TrachemySScripta

If you look carefully, they're less than four moves.

baddogno

Someone posted in another similar thread that each side has to complete at least 4 moves before it affects your rating in correspondence chess.  I don't personally know if that's true or not, but if it is, there's your explanation.

Day late and a dollar short again...Laughing

null-cipher

Where can I find a list of this sites made up make believe rules because FIDE doesn't work this way.  Games under four moves don't count?  That's asinine.  If both players have agreed to play, and one times out.  Game over and rating points should change.  Please see game two of world championship Spassky-Fischer.  No moves have to be played for it to count.  I should recieve in increased rating.

but

That's OTB play. In Correspondance, you have an option of withdrawal. Not sure if that's how it is normally done but you can't pull a FIDE example or USCF unless it is a Correspondance game.

null-cipher

USCF and FIDE correspondence chess work on a system of reflection time and are run with a totally different structure.  OK if the rules are different here, but I can't find anywhere on this site where it says games under four moves don't count.

but

Go ahead and read the ...nvm...

If you notice, in the first 4 moves or so there is a withdraw/forfeit option. I'm guessing this is used so that someone doesn't accidently accept a time speed too fast for them.

 

Now other details. if your rating is so much higher than the other person, it doesn't matter if you win, no points are won because you were supposed to win. For example if I at 1200 (true story) play a 2000+ I would lose only 1 point. I've seen games where the rating change is 0. (Granted it's a draw most of the time because of 2 people within 10 points of each other draw, well 0 points.)

 

Thirdly, give the system time. If you won 5 minutes ago, unless it's live chess don't expect the rating change to show up till a day later.

null-cipher

Why don't they post the rules?  Or am I an idiot and can't find the rules?

baddogno

@null-cipher:

No you're not an idiot.  The rules are scattered around the Help & Support pages.  Unfortunately there seems little awareness of the importance of seperating "need to know" from "nice to know".  I'm sure V3 will fix everything though...

RG1951
null-cipher wrote:

Where can I find a list of this sites made up make believe rules because FIDE doesn't work this way.  Games under four moves don't count?  That's asinine.  If both players have agreed to play, and one times out.  Game over and rating points should change.  Please see game two of world championship Spassky-Fischer.  No moves have to be played for it to count.  I should recieve in increased rating.

        Who says Chess.com's rules have to be the same as Fide?

RG1951

        What's more, you can't normally reliably rate a player's performance on a game of fewer than four moves.

kamalakanta

I once saw on this site two players helping eah other boost one of the player's ratings. You know how, in the play section of this site, it shows you the highest rated blitz game going on?

Well, these two guys were playing game after game, just a few moves, and then one of them would resign, and to my amazement, I saw them do it about 10 times in a row...I did not understand, until I saw that their ratings were really high, ridiculously high, above 2600 or 2700, I don't remember...

Online rating is bogus, in my opinion. Real rating is proven through OTB play.

So don't give too much importance to it; focus on improving your play, and the ratings points will come.