Hintless Puzzle #3

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kco
Hi, I will be posting puzzle weekly especially for those who don't like the
dailypuzzle much or find the hint and title annoying cause you don't have clues while playing OTB do ya ? Of course not ! So please don't give answers here straight away. I wil give the answer till Wednesday and a new puzzle next Sunday. Please don't say is 'easy'  or 'first' or if you don't like it cause is too hard (Good !) go to 'here'

 

p.s. anyone who use an engine before the answer I will never speak to you again. Tongue out
Today puzzle,  is White to move.

Hintless Puzzle #2                  Hintless Puzzle #4

kco

I have the answer so message me if you have it too.

cobra91

This appears to be a simple mate in 3. Kco, since you've already gotten it, is it okay if I post [what I think is] the solution?

kco

ohh cobra you are very impatient are you. Just message me the answer ...now where is that 'eject'  button?

kco

Yes is come from a game 6 years ago.

computerrat

shouldn't u also post positions where there is nothing fancy since finding out when to spend ur time looking for stuff like this is also part of the skill people (like me) need to learn

Eebster

I wouldn't call this "simple" necessarily, but there is a pretty straightforward way of looking through white's possible moves to find the solution.

Eebster
tonydal wrote:
computerrat wrote:

shouldn't u also post positions where there is nothing fancy since finding out when to spend ur time looking for stuff like this is also part of the skill people (like me) need to learn


Sure...although the mate is (indeed) rather fancy; but anyway, it's a nice example of being able to cash in with aggressively placed pieces (despite being 2 pawns down).

Also notice that if the rook isn't hanging after Black's 2nd move--put it on g8 say--there is also the wonderful mate with 3 e6 (very nice!).


Yeah, as it is I imagine the e5 pawn is feeling a little left out.

Deranged

Rc8#

Took me literally 2 seconds to figure out. I just glanced at it and the first move that came to mind was rook to check, which happened to be checkmate at the same time.

Eebster
Deranged wrote:

Rc8#

Took me literally 2 seconds to figure out. I just glanced at it and the first move that came to mind was rook to check, which happened to be checkmate at the same time.


Imagine your surprise when you found it wasn't the solution!

orangehonda

Nice.  Because of the type of these puzzles (no hint) I re-checked the mate a few times to make sure it was forced, just like I'd have to do in a real game.

TomBarrister

White has a mate in 3 with one move, a mate in 4 with another, and an easy win by at least two other moves.


I guess there's some secret reason to not reveal the solution, so I won't either.

Eebster

I really do think the puzzle would be better without the e pawn. It makes white's job very easy even if he doesn't find the forced mate and, as Tom pointed out, gives another mate in four.

shiro_europa

interesting puzzle. thanks for the post, kco. it's not difficult to reach the solution as there aren't too many choices. it's just a matter of trying out the lines. apparently there's a mate-in-4 somewhere, so i'll try to find it as well.

kco

Spoiler Alert ! answer will be given down below.

  Vlad Kramnikvs Peter Leko
  14th and final classical world championship game, Switzerland 2004.

    Kramnik, who won the world crown fro the legendary Gary Kasparov in London in 2000, was favourite to retain the title but found himself 6-7 down to his Hungarain challenger with just one game to play.
    Kramnik showed cool psychology in the crisis,trading queens into endgame, then slowly pushing the black army into passive defence.
    Here the champion is still two pawns down,but his forces have invaded the black camp and advancing the e5 pawn would be strong.
    Kramnik found something better, a forced checkmate in three moves.
    Can ou demonstrate your skill by working it out ?

   Solution: 1.Nf7+ Ke8   2.Rc8+ Kd7  3.Rd8#

   This article was written by Leonard Barden which appear in the Western Australia's  'Sunday Times' 

kco
Here is the actual game and is annotated by Raymond Keene.
kco

that bad huh ? Laughing

jerry2468

Isn't it mate in 1??

kco

to jerry2468 you thinking of 1.Rc8+ right ?, but black getaway with Kd7.