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Does Anand even have a "puncher's chance"?


  • 14 months ago · Quote · #61

    ClavierCavalier

    varelse1 wrote:
    shepi13 wrote:
    Lawdoginator wrote:

    Carlsen will win for sure. It's embarrassing for the World Champion to be so much lower rated than the number one player. 

    Until recently, Anand was rated above 2800. He is still rated 8th in the world, and it is well known that he is one of the best match players there is.

    It's embarrassing that you aren't even over 2100 on a little chess web site.

    Was Karpov ever rated #8 while he was champion?

    Or Kasparov?

    Or Fischer?


     

    Now I'm curious.  When Kasparov finally won the title from Karpov, which was rated higher?  Who was rated higher when they first met?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #62

    Somebodysson

    good question. Let's have the answer, data crunchers.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #63

    Eeyore12

    Kasparov was slightly higher rated according to his Modern Chess 2 Book.

    But the margin was smaller, some 30 elo pts.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #64

    shepi13

    Anand is only 26 points behind Aronian, and he has probably done worse in tournaments due to preparing for the WC.

    When Kramnik beat Topalov he was rated much lower than him, but no one said that was embarrasing (Kramnik was rated 2743, while Topalov was 2813, a difference of 70 points). The Anand-Carlsen difference is around 95 points, not that much more when you consider that Carlsen is the highest rated player in history.

    Of course, this all must be very embarrasing for Anand. He is obviously just a low rated patzer.

     
  • 14 months ago · Quote · #65

    fabelhaft

    shepi13 wrote:

    Anand is only 26 points behind Aronian, and he has probably done worse in tournaments due to preparing for the WC.

    When Kramnik beat Topalov he was rated much lower than him, but no one said that was embarrasing (Kramnik was rated 2743, while Topalov was 2813, a difference of 70 points). The Anand-Carlsen difference is around 95 points, not that much more when you consider that Carlsen is the highest rated player in history.

    Of course, this all must be very embarrasing for Anand. He is obviously just a low rated patzer.

     

    No one thought Kramnik's 2743 was anywhere close to his actual level, since his rating was caused by a year of illness with horrible results. He was 2800 a couple of years before and after the match, while Topalov was in the 2730s to 2760s a couple of years before and after the match.

    As for Anand's rating the last years being caused by his saving preparation I have my doubts about that. You may realise that he has dropped somewhat in playing strength as all players do due to age, but that doesn't equal him being a "low rated patzer".

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #66

    falcogrine

    the low rated patzer was a joke :)

    I'm sure that Anand has been focusing on prep rather than his recent games, but he is starting to slip with age. His big advantage is his prep and experience, not strength.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #67

    nameno1had

    Carlsen's jab is too good. It will keep Anand on the outside looking in. It will also keep Anand's combinations from hitting their mark. Carlsen will always win the in fighting, as he does against everyone...

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #68

    orangeishblue

    I see Anand winning this match by +1

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #69

    Seawolf159

    I find it difficult to find any info about this match. (amount of game etc.) But i think Carlsen will be the strongest after it all.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #70

    anirudhmehra1230

    I like both the players though I am rooting for Anand but all I want to do is enjoy their games.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #71

    kajeey7

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #72

    kavanam

    I have a funny opinion

    Carlsen may not have a Russian player in his Team. This may give the Advantage to Anand and his Team!Undecided

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #73

    ClavierCavalier

    Seawolf159 wrote:

    I find it difficult to find any info about this match. (amount of game etc.) But i think Carlsen will be the strongest after it all.

    Here is the official site:  http://chennai2013.fide.com/

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #74

    Somebodysson

    shepi13 wrote:

    Of course, this all must be very embarrasing for Anand. He is obviously just a low rated patzer.

     

    funny!

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #75

    BadHabitZZZ

    Everybody wants to bury Anand.  Once upon a time he was everyone's favourite.  He is a total gentlemen.... met and played on 3x occassions Simuls, Dinners, etc...

    Enormously talented.  I read a recent article by Mihail Marin, Schach 11.  Objective, not over the top, and thoughtful.

    Maybe, he has other priorities,... a wonderful baby son and he has secured his financial future and his name in chess.  So maybe this is just another paycheck that he will put away for Baby Anand's future.  

    He really is a human being and not ONLY a chess player.

    And remember everyone buried him after Gelfand beat him last match,... 

    Kramnik 'thought' he was better,... and got spanked.

    Karpov never got over his spanking;

    and Topalov,... 

    AND he just recently created the modern Rotweli vs. Rubinstein game,... Lodz 1906 against Aronian... Roweli was not even considered a 1st class player at the turn of the 20th century.

    Do not 'under-estimate,' him.  You can be sure Carlsen does not.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #76

    letsgohome

    a puncher's yes, but a "kicker's" i do not know brah


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