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mrhjornevik

I have no problem seeing you as my exs bff. Come to think of it you would fit perfect. Feel free to make a move. 

I dont know what is the sadest

You feel the need to bash everyone you talk to, since you dont have enought selfconfidence to just be nice 

or that you have so little to do with your life you go to chess.com to preach about how terrible chess is. If you dont like chess, or people who play it, I am sure there is another game you could try? 

Feufollet
maskedbishop wrote:

>You sure remind me of one of my ex-gf's bff<

That's apropos, Baggy, because that's exactly who I am.

meow out with them catty claws

maskedbishop

Mr. Hornblower, are you talking to me? If so, please get a spell checker.  Good form always comes first, sir.

Feufollet

rofl

mrhjornevik
maskedbishop wrote:

Mr. Hornblower, are you talking to me? If so, please get a spell checker.  Good form always comes first, sir.

you speaking to me? Please learn fluent Spanish, German or Norwegian. Writing in English gets so boring after a while. 

maskedbishop

>Writing in English gets so boring after a while. <

Well then, off you go to the Norwegian chess forums. I'm sure there's lots of Magnus Love to be had there.  Hmm, sounds like a condom.

Sadly, the Spanish, Germans, and Norwegians all had their time being King Bee of the West (well, not the Norwegians), and learning their lingua franca is now principally a requirement for Americans to get into college.

mrhjornevik

Norwegians never been king on the hill? Shows how well educated you are. Does the vikings tell you anything? Studies even suggest that in the time of the danlaw (UK under Viking rule) the English langue was irradicated and excist today as one of the branches of Viking langue. 

Husband, Grass, Window, knife and thousands of other words comes from Norwegian. 

If you want more proof of Norwegian awsomness, the Norwegian gouverment controls the single biggest fund in the world. A whopping 853.9 billion. But with a U.S trade deficit of 534.7 billion in 2012 a gouverment actualy having money must be a foreign consept to you. 

I am happy that you need a second langue for going to collage (even if in 2009-10 only 50.7% of higher educational institutions required foreign langue study for a baccalaureate. 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/collegeprose/2012/08/27/americas-foreign-language-deficit/

In most of Europa you need a second langue to graduate elementery school. In Norway you need a third to graduate highschool.

Yea btw who do you think "discovered" America? The explorer Leif Erikson was there around 1000 AD. A Norwegian. 

 

You may have higher education, but you dont seem very enlightened

Feufollet
mrhjornevik wrote:

...Writing in English gets so boring after a while.

 

Sie sprechen drei Sprachen fließend? Wirklich? Warum bin ich nicht überrascht?

Well, anyway, the world community should be glad for English.

It's a very flexible and intuitive language.

e.g.  "yesterday to store go I"  or "I to store go yesterday" or "To store yesterday I go".....

You can butcher the grammar totally and people will still understand you ( given the context ).

The same cannot be said for other languages. That is why English is taking root much faster than Spanish or French.

Beyond the rudimentary, it is a powerful communications tool - artistic, efficient, pragmatic, poetic...anything you like.

mrhjornevik
BlackLeopard-1 wrote:
mrhjornevik wrote:

...Writing in English gets so boring after a while.

 

Sie sprechen drei Sprachen fließend? Wirklich?

Well, anyway, the world community should be glad for English.

It's a very flexible and intuitive language.

e.g.  "yesterday to store go I"  or "I to store go yesterday" or "To store yesterday I go".....

You can butcher the grammar totally and people will understand you ( given the context ).

The same cannot be said for other languages. That is why English is taking root much faster than Spanish or French.

Beyond the rudimentary, it is a powerful communications tool - artistic, efficient, pragmatic, poetic...anything you like.

6 actualy (Norwegian, Danish, Sweedish, German and Spanish), but saying I speak Spanish fluently would be a lie. 

You dont need to tell me about the benefits of English, I strongly approve of English as a world langue, even if the charactaristics you mentioned is shared with all the scandinavian langues. :)

My point was never that English was boring. Simply that if he could not stand my misspellings he should feel free to chose another langue. 

Feufollet
mrhjornevik wrote:
 

You dont need to tell me about the benefits of English, I strongly approve of English as a world langue, even if the charactaristics you mentioned is shared with all the scandinavian langues. :)

English is one of the West Germanic language...so I imagine it's inherited much also from the Scandinavian languages...

Feufollet

Spanish is closer to French (latin roots) and English is closer to German...it seems closer to Spanish because Spanish is more commonly seen and heard here in America

mrhjornevik
Mersaphe wrote:

I heard that English is quite similar to German...but to me it seems more similar to Spanish

just trust me when I say its not. First of the way they place the words is F**ed in spanish

the blue book 

das blaue Buch

el libro azul /the book blue

Secondly English have two sexes following the letters: an apple / a car 

German has three 

ein Apfel / das Auto / der junge 

 

Spanish have none but differs between male and female 

chica / girl

chico / boy 

guapo / handsome boy

Guapa / handsome girl  

Aetheldred
BlackLeopard-1 wrote:
mrhjornevik wrote:

...Writing in English gets so boring after a while.

 

Sie sprechen drei Sprachen fließend? Wirklich? Warum bin ich nicht überrascht?

Well, anyway, the world community should be glad for English.

It's a very flexible and intuitive language.

e.g.  "yesterday to store go I"  or "I to store go yesterday" or "To store yesterday I go".....

You can butcher the grammar totally and people will still understand you ( given the context ).

The same cannot be said for other languages. That is why English is taking root much faster than Spanish or French.

Beyond the rudimentary, it is a powerful communications tool - artistic, efficient, pragmatic, poetic...anything you like.

Mmm, Spanish comes from Latin, a language that had no canonical word order. The same is true for Spanish, a much more flexible language than English. 

Canonical word order: Subject + Verb + Complement + Adverb. No such order is required in Spanish. Plus, we always understand foreigners even when they mispronounce half the words; the same cannot be said for English.

Aetheldred

oxoxvc,I don't get defensive at all, I give entire lectures about it. 

Also, the reason English is spoken all over the world is quite clear.

First, we have the British Empire (there were two different British empires), the first Industrial Revolution started in England as well, and after WWII, we have the USA as the first superpower: Hollywood, fashion, technology... We are now living the 3rd Industrial revolution that started in the USA as well. 

mrhjornevik

"most of Europa you need a second langue to graduate elementery school." 

Could that be a byproduct of the fact that in Europe you're surrounded by foreign nations each with it's own language or dialect? hmm...

And this from a Canadian? Dont you still have to learn French?

As for the people living in southern US 29% of texas speaks Spanish, 20% of Arizona, 28% in California and 24% in new mexico. Not even mentioning puerto rico. So saying that Europeans need a second langue more then the Americans would be wrong. 

But where Europeans enjoy getting to know other people and cultures it is my general opinion that Amercians have a "Speak English or die" attitude that only serve to harm them in the long run. 

Aetheldred
mrhjornevik wrote:

"most of Europa you need a second langue to graduate elementery school." 

Could that be a byproduct of the fact that in Europe you're surrounded by foreign nations each with it's own language or dialect? hmm...

And this from a Canadian? Dont you still have to learn French?

As for the people living in southern US 29% of texas speaks Spanish, 20% of Arizona, 28% in California and 24% in new mexico. Not even mentioning puerto rico. So saying that Europeans need a second langue more then the Americans would be wrong. 

But where Europeans enjoy getting to know other people and cultures it is my general opinion that Amercians have a "Speak English or die" attitude that only serve to harm them in the long run. 

There are more non-native speakers of English than native ones. Within the group of non-native speakers, we can distinguish those who use it as a lingua franca because there is more than one official language in their country (i.e. India) and those who use it as a foreign language, as a tool for communication (business for instance), this is the case of Spain, Germany, Norway, etc.

mrhjornevik

Mmm, Spanish comes from Latin, a language that had no canonical word order. The same is true for Spanish, a much more flexible language than English. 

Canonical word order: Subject + Verb + Complement + Adverb. No such order is required in Spanish. Plus, we always understand foreigners even when they mispronounce half the words; the same cannot be said for English.

 

Te necesito cuando estudio, hablo pero nadie entienda nada :P

Necesito aprender algo mas facil, como japonés :D

Aetheldred
mrhjornevik wrote:

Mmm, Spanish comes from Latin, a language that had no canonical word order. The same is true for Spanish, a much more flexible language than English. 

Canonical word order: Subject + Verb + Complement + Adverb. No such order is required in Spanish. Plus, we always understand foreigners even when they mispronounce half the words; the same cannot be said for English.

 

Te necesito cuando estudio, hablo pero nadie entienda nada :P

Necesito aprender algo mas facil, como japonés :D

Jajajajaja, I'm sure you can manage!

mrhjornevik

"You're putting words in my mouth... I never said that... and no... you don't need to learn french in canada..."


ok my bad, only Canadian friend I have is from quebec so I just assumed. But I still think "in Europe you're surrounded by foreign nations each with it's own language"     

is a bad argument for why Europeans are better in langues than Americans. Usealy you have to leave the contry to hear a foreign langue, but in southern parts if the US I get the feeling you only need go to the nearest street conrner. 

More important is the cultural and historical differences. At the time when America was "discovered" Europeans had been killing each other for 3000 years The ability to distinguish between a German saying "did you sleep with my wife" and "Come over for dinner" could very much save your life. 

IpswichMatt
mrhjornevik wrote:

Norwegians never been king on the hill? Shows how well educated you are. Does the vikings tell you anything? Studies even suggest that in the time of the danlaw (UK under Viking rule) the English langue was irradicated and excist today as one of the branches of Viking langue. 

That's surprising, as the Danelaw never covered anywhere near the whole of England. Perhaps the fact that many Vikings settled and integrated here explains why some Viking words entered our language.