12 maanden geleden · Quote · #21
So for next year, we could look at asking for teams which do not plan to grow. If 16-32 teams sign up and make that pledge then it would be enough to run a tournament with.
I don't see much value in continuing to talk about it for this year -- what's done is done. Many teams play in leagues of all kinds the world over knowing they have little chance to win. The FIFA World Cup, Chess Olympiad, Olympic Games, and countless other amateur and professional leagues would be nothing without the teams who are destined to lose but choose to play anyway for the joy of sport. 
12 maanden geleden · Quote · #22
i wouldn't ask for teams pledge. i would just make the registration well know to all teams who would be elligible. then they have 2 weeks to decide and register. that way they only have 2 weeks to gain the members. you can't gain 200 members in 2 weeks. i have seen a few of these teams grow that much during registration. also can't a tournament be managed with less than 16 teams? just asking. we joined last year for the sport and started with less than 100 players. this year we were trying to defend the well earned trophy. little more at stake this year for our team. hope that makes sense and you understand. peace TC
- 12 maanden geleden · Quote · #23
The teams who registered WERE less than 250 when the tournament started. Its once the tournament starts that is the problem. I would agree that a pledge should be signed that teams are not allowed to go over say a maximum of 300 members during the tournament or face being removed mid tournament?
- 12 maanden geleden · Quote · #24
Good suggestion. You have my vote.
- 12 maanden geleden · Quote · #25
I just think it makes sense. This tournament was created for small teams (<250) to have some fun competitive matches and it no longer is competitive if a team uses bad sportsmanship to gain an advantage
- 12 maanden geleden · Quote · #26
I don't think it's fair to call it bad sportsmanship. An admin might not know if their team is going to grow that much. I doubt they intentionally join a small team league knowing their team will be huge before the year is out, just to give them an advantage in the league.
- 12 maanden geleden · Quote · #27
OK maybe not Dave but it would be nice to have something in place if this does actually happen. They may not knowingly do it on purpose but we have all the other teams in the tourney to consider too?
- 12 maanden geleden · Quote · #28
DaveShack wrote:
I doubt they intentionally join a small team league knowing their team will be huge before the year is out, just to give them an advantage in the league.
True. However, I would think the admins also have the responsibilty to maintain the team at the limit and not to exceed that limit.
- 12 maanden geleden · Quote · #29
Before the beginning of the competition no one said that there is any limit for future growth. That is unsportsmanlike to change rules in the middle of the competition . If it had been written in the rules that next year may not invite new members I'd never participated in this tournament. It is unsportsmanlike that team who has 30 players with more than 2000 ratings.complained on unequal conditions for the game. How the number of members affect the result in game 5 +? You can see the link. There are still about 30 activ players with 2000 + rating in team Coat of Arms who can join. No matter how many members they have they are not a small group.
It is quite certain that the Coat of Arms will win this match. But the creation of this atmosphere against my team is very ugly. If this is my game, I will definitely cancel it. But it is a large number of players who, for the second time, join this match (The first time an opponent has canceled). Because of them I will stay here to listen to your words. But what you say it's really not fair to my team.
- 7 maanden geleden · Quote · #30
Very interesting. The match that Coat of Arms was "certain" to win ended up being a win for SFRJ. And there are many upsets of lower rated over higher.
SFRJ (Once Brothers - Nekad braća) Coat of Arms WINNER! = 21 = 13 miki962nis (2097) 0.5 View | View 1.5 viragochess(2224) zlatko_68 (2182) 2 View | View 0 adrian_taylor(1818) velemaher (1895) 2 View | View 0 phoenixtears(1930) MarkoPop84 (1998) 2 View | View 0 Pawell (2070) desavic (2055) 0.5 View | View 1.5 IronMax (2157) gorjank (1983) 0.5 View | View 1.5 tonyorr (2042) Bloodpack (2066) 2 View | View 0 macabra (1884) Suljibaba (1813) 2 View | View 0 blackdog317(1876) SashaLatinovic (1847) 2 View | View 0 electricpawn(1785) u_prolazu (1868) 1 View | View 1 davrosFTM(1742) GornoRodivo-314527PK (1683) 0 View | View 2 Xanamana(1958) makarije1999 (1867) 1 View | View 1 TheSandman(1861) rastko20 (1728) 2 View | View 0 cormac_zoso(1618) RasaSrbija (1691) 1 View | View 1 Smoke_cC(1644) pochetnik (1787) 1.5 View | View 0.5 ChefBruce (1991)
SFRJ (Once Brothers - Nekad braća) 
Coat of Arms 
No, this is the round that finished. That match should have been played months ago.
CoA plays in the next round, Chess Etiquette did not advance.