RainPiper

Oct 8, 2017

0

#1

Division 2: 14 teams

Rules: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/2018-wcl-rules

Team contacts: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/2018-wcl-team-contacts

All match results are preliminary and indicative (occasionally updated by hand). Consult https://chess.bounceme.net/chess/ligas.php for live results and rankings.

Two teams promote to Division 1, six teams are relegated to Division 3. (This asymmetry is due to the size reduction of Divisions 1 and 2 in the 2019 season.)

Results may change due to ex-post corrections (see rules) until the cut-off date on October, 15th (for promotion and relegation) and December, 31th (for the final ranking).

	To	Lo	Be	Ni	Bu	Ba	Bo	Qu	Br	Th	TH	Od	Pr	BA	total
Toronto	xxx	0	1	0	1	1	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4
London	1	xxx	1	0	1	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	6
Berlin	0	0	xxx	0	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	2
Niš	1	1	1	xxx	1	1	1	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	8
Burgas	0	0	0	0	xxx	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
Barcelona	0	1	1	0	1	xxx	0	½	0	0	0	0	0	0	3½
Bordeaux	0	0	1	0	0	0	xxx	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1
Quebec	1	1	1	1	1	½	1	xxx	1	0	1	0	0	0	8½
Bristol	1	0	0	0	1	1	1	0	xxx	0	0	0	0	0	4
Thessaloniki	1	1	1	0	0	1	1	1	1	xxx	1	0	0	0	8
The Hague	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	0	1	0	xxx	0	1	0	9
Odessa	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	xxx	1	0	12
Prishtina	1	0	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	0	0	xxx	0	9
Buenos Aires	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	xxx	13

RainPiper

Oct 8, 2017

0

#2

Team A		Team B	match ID	players	raw result	corrected result	match points
*Round 1 (announcement: 2017-11-01, start: 2017-11-15)*
Toronto	vsn	Buenos Aires	843466	13	10½-15½	9-17	0-1
London	vs	Prishtina	843708	19	24-14	23-15	1-0
Berlin	vs	Odessa	843306	16	6-26	9-23	0-1
Niš	vs	The Hague	845608	15	11½-18½	13½-16½	0-1
Burgas	vs	Thessaloniki	844080	12	17½-6½	19½-4½	1-0
Barcelona	vs	Bristol	844960	12	11-13	11-13	0-1
Bordeaux	vs	Quebec	843754	17	14½-19½	10½-23½	0-1

*Round 2* *(announcement: 2017-11-22, start: 2017-12-06)*
Buenos Aires	vs	Quebec	850486	13	18½-7½	16½-9½	1-0
Bristol	vs	Bordeaux	851344	13	16-10	16-10	1-0
Thessaloniki	vs	Barcelona	851052	12	15½-8½	13½-10½	1-0
The Hague	vs	Burgas	851152	--	--	--	1-0
Odessa	vs	Niš	850734	22	32-12	30½-13½	1-0
Prishtina	vs	Berlin	850896	22	25-19	23-21	1-0
Toronto	vs	London	851618	16	19-13	17-15	1-0

*Round 3* *(announcement: 2017-12-20, start: 2018-01-03)*
London	vs	Buenos Aires	858240	16	6½-25½	8½-23½	0-1
Berlin	vs	Toronto	858284	18	9½-26½	10½-25½	0-1
Niš	vs	Prishtina	857942	21	18½-23½	20½-21½	0-1
Burgas	vs	Odessa	857970	--	--	--	0-1
Barcelona	vs	The Hague	858264	14	12-16	11-17	0-1
Bordeaux	vs	Thessaloniki	857608	13	6½-19½	6-20	0-1
Quebec	vs	Bristol	858762	14	14½-13½	14½-13½	1-0

*Round 4* *(announcement: 2018-01-10, start: 2018-01-24)*
Buenos Aires	vs	Bristol	864026	13	16½-9½	16½-9½	1-0
Thessaloniki	vs	Quebec	863784	--	--	--	1-0
The Hague	vs	Bordeaux	863570	15	16½-13½	19½-10½	1-0
Odessa	vs	Barcelona	863826	14	16-12	15-13	1-0
Prishtina	vs	Burgas	863642	--	--	--	1-0
Toronto	vs	Niš	863602	16	13½-18½	9½-22½	0-1
London	vs	Berlin	863930	15	23½-6½	23½-6½	1-0

*Round 5* *(announcement: 2018-01-31, start: 2018-02-14)*
Berlin	vs	Buenos Aires	868900	15	5½-24½	5½-24½	0-1
Niš	vs	London	869042	15	20½-9½	20½-9½	1-0
Burgas	vs	Toronto	869644	--	--	--	0-1
Barcelona	vs	Prishtina	869494	14	6½-19½	7½-20½	0-1
Bordeaux	vs	Odessa	869504	13	9½-16½	7½-18½	0-1
Quebec	vs	The Hague	868962	22	25½-18½	25½-18½	1-0
Bristol	vs	Thessaloniki	868912	--	--	--	0-1

*Round 6* *(announcement: 2018-02-21, start: 2018-03-07)*
Buenos Aires	vs	Thessaloniki	876332	23	36-10	38-8	1-0
The Hague	vs	Bristol	874794	--	--	--	1-0
Odessa	vs	Quebec	874882	36	45-27	45-27	1-0
Prishtina	vs	Bordeaux	875148	16	15½-16½	18½-13½	1-0
Toronto	vs	Barcelona	874880	16	21-11	21-11	1-0
London	vs	Burgas	875480	--	--	--	1-0
Berlin	vs	Niš	874870	19	11½-26½	11½-26½	0-1

*Round 7* *(announcement: 2018-03-14, start: 2018-03-28)*
Niš	vs	Buenos Aires	880142	18	11½-24½	11½-24½	0-1
Burgas	vs	Berlin	881184	--	--	--	0-1
Barcelona	vs	London	880992	12	15-9	15-9	1-0
Bordeaux	vs	Toronto	880072	--	--	--	0-1
Quebec	vs	Prishtina	880268	24	21-27	21-27	0-1
Bristol	vs	Odessa	880994	12	5½-18½	5½-18½	0-1
Thessaloniki	vs	The Hague	880040	12	15½-8½	13½-10½	1-0

RainPiper

Oct 8, 2017

0

#3

Team A		Team B	match ID	players	raw result	corrected result	match points
*Round 8* *(announcement: 2018-04-04, start: 2018-04-18)*
Buenos Aires	vs	The Hague	885860	25	36½-13½	36½-13½	1-0
Odessa	vs	Thessaloniki	886206	--	--	--	1-0
Prishtina	vs	Bristol	886672	--	--	--	1-0
Toronto	vs	Quebec	885892	18	11½-24½	11½-24½	0-1
London	vs	Bordeaux	887398	14	18½-9½	20½-7½	1-0
Berlin	vs	Barcelona	885728	14	11-17	11-17	0-1
Niš	vs	Burgas	885746	--	--	--	1-0

*Round 9* *(announcement: 2018-04-25, start: 2018-05-09)*
Burgas	vs	Buenos Aires	892928	--	--	--	0-1
Barcelona	vs	Niš	892178	--	--	--	0-1
Bordeaux	vs	Berlin	892068	13	15½-10½	13½-12½	1-0
Quebec	vs	London	893078	13	17-9	17-9	1-0
Bristol	vs	Toronto	893028	13	15-11	17-9	1-0
Thessaloniki	vs	Prishtina	892956	13	9-17	8-18	0-1
The Hague	vs	Odessa	891808	25	17-33	18½-31½	0-1

*Round 10* *(announcement: 2018-05-16, start: 2018-05-30)*
Buenos Aires	vs	Odessa	897604	63	84½-41½	86½-39½	1-0
Prishtina	vs	The Hague	897554	20	19½-20½	19½-20½	0-1
Toronto	vs	Thessaloniki	897570	12	8-16	7-17	0-1
London	vs	Bristol	900214	--	--	--	1-0
Berlin	vs	Quebec	897688	17	9½-24½	9½-24½	0-1
Niš	vs	Bordeaux	897454	14	21-7	23-5	1-0
Burgas	vs	Barcelona	<-	--	--	--	0-1

*Round 11* *(announcement: 2018-06-06, start: 2018-06-20)*
Barcelona	vs	Buenos Aires	904530	--	--	--	0-1
Bordeaux	vs	Burgas		--	--	--	0-0
Quebec	vs	Niš	903972	17	19-15	19-15	1-0
Bristol	vs	Berlin	906778	--	--	--	0-1
Thessaloniki	vs	London	903630	12	12½-11½	12½-11½	1-0
The Hague	vs	Toronto	903666	12	21½-2½	21½-2½	1-0
Odessa	vs	Prishtina	906148	19	27-11	27-11	1-0

*Round 12* *(announcement: 2018-06-27, start: 2018-07-11)*
Buenos Aires	vs	Prishtina	911584	23	36-10	36-10	1-0
Toronto	vs	Odessa	911716	--	--	--	0-1
London	vs	The Hague	911610	14	10½-17½	10½-17½	0-1
Berlin	vs	Thessaloniki	911596	12	8½-15½	8½-15½	0-1
Niš	vs	Bristol	911732	12	16-7	14-9	1-0
Burgas	vs	Quebec	<-	--	--	--	0-1
Barcelona	vs	Bordeaux	912696	--	--	--	0-0

*Round 13* *(announcement: 2018-07-18, start: 2018-08-01)*
Bordeaux	vs	Buenos Aires	919076	15	4-26	3-27	0-1
Quebec	vs	Barcelona	918478	13	13-13	13-13	½-½
Burgas	vs	Bristol	<-	--	--	--	0-1
Thessaloniki	vs	Niš	917496	12	4½-19½	4½-19½	0-1
The Hague	vs	Berlin	917302	12	18½-4½	18½-4½	1-0
Odessa	vs	London	917892	14	16-12	16-12	1-0
Prishtina	vs	Toronto	918522	16	18½-13½	22½-9½	1-0

RainPiper

Oct 17, 2017

0

#4

Parings adjusted:

Toronto replaces Yerevan
Nis replaces Sao Paulo

see https://www.chess.com/news/view/2017-wcl-promotion-and-relegation-7142

HappyMan_UA

Oct 31, 2017

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#5

WCL2018 R1: Team Odessa vs Team Berlin

https://www.chess.com/groups/team_match?id=843306

borisside

Oct 31, 2017

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#6

Québec Quetetaro

https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/1314857

Québec Bordeaux

https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/1482264

pancho2015

Oct 31, 2017

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#7

Team Toronto vs Team Buenos Aires

www.chess.com/club/matches/843466

Rookover

Nov 1, 2017

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#8

R1 - Québec vs Bordeaux

Anastasios

Nov 2, 2017

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#9

https://www.chess.com/groups/view_team_match_challenge?id=1483478

armendmulakaj1984

Nov 4, 2017

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#10

WCL 2017 R1 : Team Prishtina- Team London

https://www.chess.com/groups/team_match?id=843708

RainPiper

Nov 5, 2017

0

#11

Challenge The Hague vs Nis:

https://www.chess.com/clubs/match_challenge/1483358

not accepted so far.

pancho2015

Nov 22, 2017

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#12

#18

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/850486

Buenos Aires vs Quebec

Laki_69

Nov 23, 2017

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#13

WCL2018/Division 2, R2: Grad Niš vs Team Odessa - Жемчужина у моря

Chofarov

Nov 24, 2017

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#14

WCL2018 R2 : Team Prishtina vs Team Berlin

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/team-berlin/850896

Anastasios

Dec 4, 2017

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#15

WCL2018 R1: Team Burgas Vs Team Thessaloniki (MAΚEΔONIA)

RainPiper

Dec 4, 2017

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#16

At the date of the scheduled match start (November 15th), neither Thessaloniki nor Burgas had reached the required player minimum of 12. Therefore, the match has been counted as a double forfeit loss. See #2 in this thread. The match may be cancelled.

Anastasios

Dec 5, 2017

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#17

RainPiper wrote:

At the date of the scheduled match start (November 15th), neither Thessaloniki nor Burgas had reached the required player minimum of 12. Therefore, the match has been counted as a double forfeit loss. See #2 in this thread. The match may be cancelled.

Double forfeit loss?

Not enen a draw?!

It doesnt make any diference that in 15th of November Thessaloniki had more players than Burgas?

Whats the problem with the other teams if Burgas reach the 12+ and some time before the end of the tournament we manage to end our match too?!

RainPiper

Dec 5, 2017

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#18

@Anastasios: The short answer is "These are the rules." The WCL has (as the WL for country teams) scheduled start dates per round and teams are required to collect a sufficient number of players before that date. If they don't succeed, it's a forfeit loss. (The player minima and the teams falling short of reaching them have been announced twice in the groups notes before the start of Round 1.)

The longer answer is an answer to the question "Why do we have these rules?" It's clearer and simpler this way. Before the start of a new round, we want to have all matches of the previous round either running of decided by forfeit. Allowing "sleeping matches" which become active as soon as both teams reach the player minimum is likely to create unclear and disputed situations which we don't have the capacity to handle.

This said, there are leagues (EL, ECL) in which the rules are different and match start dates are more liberal. If a majority of team admins is strongly in favour of changing rules, this is certainly an option for next season. But changing rules during a season is not.

Anastasios

Dec 5, 2017

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#19

RainPiper wrote:

@Anastasios: The short answer is "These are the rules." The WCL has (as the WL for country teams) scheduled start dates per round and teams are required to collect a sufficient number of players before that date. If they don't succeed, it's a forfeit loss. (The player minima and the teams falling short of reaching them have been announced twice in the groups notes before the start of Round 1.)

The longer answer is an answer to the question "Why do we have these rules?" It's clearer and simpler this way. Before the start of a new round, we want to have all matches of the previous round either running of decided by forfeit. Allowing "sleeping matches" which become active as soon as both teams reach the player minimum is likely to create unclear and disputed situations which we don't have the capacity to handle.

This said, there are leagues (EL, ECL) in which the rules are different and match start dates are more liberal. If a majority of team admins is strongly in favour of changing rules, this is certainly an option for next season. But changing rules during a season is not.

I thought that the "rule" was forfeit win for the team who had 12+, if the other team havent succeded the 12 until the sceduled date and not forfeit lose for both, if both havent 12+!

And that was the reason you have "--" on

raw
result

corrected
result

RainPiper

Dec 5, 2017

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#20

As the match is not played, there is no raw result to be (possibly) corrected.