4 Player Chess Statistics

Do Red+Yellow have noticeable advantage in 4PC Teams?

I queried 38699 Teams games (with 9 plies or more).

19600 1-0 (Red + Yellow won)
19058 0-1 (Blue + Green won)
41 Draw

50.647% / 49.247% / 0.106%

What are the longest games in 4PC so far?

FFA:

Time: https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=21642 64' 464 plies

Plies: https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=24499 58' 546 plies

Teams:

Time: https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=71449 60' 414 plies

Plies: https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=75693 44' 456 plies

Cool! 

triplechecks with one mate
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=63618
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=65744
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=97000
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=111952
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=113996
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=140370

no triplechecks with two mates yet
no triple checkmates yet

triplechecks by non-queens

https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=42263
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=100512
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=112706
https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=112948

I find that really hard to believe, unless the rules of teams have changed in my absence

me too. i just counted 24107 vs 22375 with 47 draws

i guess > 9 plies excludes a ton of quick red+yellow wins

@_-__-__-___-, as you know, you used today's database and I used an older database (backup copy). That is why you got 47 draws when I got 41. Draws are only 0.1% of Teams games, thus your database has 6'000 more games.

Also, as you noticed, I excluded too short games. Because they are not indicative. If someone got checkmated on move №2 it means he played very bad. It does not mean his opponents had an advantage.

I believe we should look at games of higher rated players only.

It might be interesting to have statistics for games above a certain elo. Can you do that BabYagun ?

Team games where all players are 1400+:

2452 1-0 (Red + Yellow won)
2230 0-1 (Blue + Green won)
2 Draw

Team games (with 9 plies or more) where all players are 1400+:

2402 1-0 (Red + Yellow won)
2190 0-1 (Blue + Green won)
2 Draw

Team games where all players are 1600+:

579 1-0 (Red + Yellow won)
528 0-1 (Blue + Green won)
0 Draw

Team games (with 9 plies or more) where all players are 1600+:

573 1-0 (Red + Yellow won)
520 0-1 (Blue + Green won)
0 Draw

You should not exclude short games, because players can just as well blunder or play bad later on in the game as at the start. If blue and green blunder more often at the start of the game, that might be attributed to some kind of advantage by red and yellow (initiative and threats).

It looks like there is a similar (small) first-move advantage for red and yellow in 4-player chess as for white in regular chess.

I believe that there will be no advantage of Red+Yellow once we have some opening theory. Those short games are just blunders. Like Fool's Mate or Scholar's Mate in classic chess.

ffa wins (excl aborts)

23687 red

23786 blue

23400 yellow

24218 green

losses (4th)
23612

23396

24078

24012

points
174, #6089, MrRookie14
174, #92132, floranrey
177, #23539, eggsylopez
179, #74937, ezakimaK
186, #117733, phillyrichard
186, #34637, markwett
196, #128737, MikfailTal
199, #140484, Roger33
210, #87289, VoronaVlad
211, #150832, Shlomo12345
216, #13267, Reyfrances
217, #118158, cerebropc
240, #81670, jabcoooo
255, #109662, e4bc4qh5qf7
296, #93344, Rainy_days

fyi you can search for game# like this

most frequent teams openings (all players 1400+)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A4Te5Yoj6wYaOOV3WfF0WTSAJuBt_kL0E3wdxipDFRI

FFA:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EvW0Zbf_sXC4uv0UxbgJ5yO8YdQ8bMVCM7_PoDoTop4

Regarding FFA:

If possible, could you state how the players finished based on their starting position.  How did the (1st and 3rd) or (2nd and 4th) players finish would be very interesting.  Preferably rated games higher than 1400 for instance.

Thank-you

From another thread:

An average FFA game is 21 minutes. Teams: 7 minutes.

The longest game is 75 min for FFA and 60 min for Teams.