I think it is possible to create a database query to check if the winner used castling or not. Will try when I have time.
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just mated 2 people in 1 move yesterday with a rook. 1st time ever doing that
BabYagun wrote:
From another thread:
An average FFA game is 21 minutes. Teams: 7 minutes.
The longest game is 75 min for FFA and 60 min for Teams.
Given that the ending in FFA is literally three times more to accomplish than in teams, this is actually surprising in the reverse sense. In FFA three people need to be checkmated (leaving aside resignations). In teams, one.
VAOhlman wrote:
BabYagun wrote:
From another thread:
An average FFA game is 21 minutes. Teams: 7 minutes.
The longest game is 75 min for FFA and 60 min for Teams.
Given that the ending in FFA is literally three times more to accomplish than in teams, this is actually surprising in the reverse sense. In FFA three people need to be checkmated (leaving aside resignations). In teams, one.
On average an FFA game is exactly three times as long as a Teams game according to those statistics. The 60-minute Teams game was just exceptionally long.
What is the popularity of Red's 20 possible opening moves in percentages?
GDII wrote:
What is the popularity of Red's 20 possible opening moves in percentages?
For good players or all games?
All games
GDII wrote:
All games
I have a file that you could use to calculate that. I'm not quite good enough to auto calculate it.
Dec 16, 2018
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#31
> Teams
d2-d3 267
d2-d4 678
e2-e3 1252
e2-e4 554
f2-f3 2725
f2-f4 2697
g2-g3 8520
g2-g4 14148
h2-h3 111887
h2-h4 27389
i2-i3 509
i2-i4 1093
j2-j3 2952
j2-j4 969
k2-k3 625
k2-k4 1519
Nj1-k3 601
Nj1-i3 3403
Ne1-d3 235
Ne1-f3 1162
> FFA
d2-d3 1217
d2-d4 4895
e2-e3 9429
e2-e4 2140
f2-f3 1562
f2-f4 18180
g2-g3 4136
g2-g4 194107
h2-h3 11567
h2-h4 64905
i2-i3 965
i2-i4 3144
j2-j3 50993
j2-j4 2309
k2-k3 1817
k2-k4 5341
Nj1-k3 1174
Nj1-i3 15089
Ne1-d3 387
Ne1-f3 4455
Thanks. Can you also query how many of those games resulted in a win and how many resulted in a loss? (To have some indication of which moves are best.)
Dec 16, 2018
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#33
ffa red wins
d2-d3 365
d2-d4 1707
e2-e3 3423
e2-e4 657
f2-f3 490
f2-f4 6885
g2-g3 1140
g2-g4 67745
h2-h3 3266
h2-h4 17503
i2-i3 244
i2-i4 776
j2-j3 20391
j2-j4 538
k2-k3 580
k2-k4 1641
Nj1-k3 286
Nj1-i3 5514
Ne1-d3 76
Ne1-f3 1552
ffa red losses
d2-d3 315
d2-d4 1153
e2-e3 2013
e2-e4 578
f2-f3 393
f2-f4 4110
g2-g3 1100
g2-g4 44029
h2-h3 2942
h2-h4 16367
i2-i3 256
i2-i4 851
j2-j3 10414
j2-j4 612
k2-k3 449
k2-k4 1198
Nj1-k3 304
Nj1-i3 3155
Ne1-d3 116
Ne1-f3 1016
nutsyci wrote:
If we could search games by openings that would be a lot of fun! Like insert certain moves in analysis board and then "find games with this position" for example.
+1
@-_-__-__-___- And for Teams?
Yeah, an opening explorer / database would be nice.
First move popularity Teams:
d2-d3 0.1%
d2-d4 0.4%
e2-e3 0.7%
e2-e4 0.3%
f2-f3 1.5%
f2-f4 1.5%
g2-g3 4.7%
g2-g4 7.7%
h2-h3 61.1%
h2-h4 15.0%
i2-i3 0.3%
i2-i4 0.6%
j2-j3 1.6%
j2-j4 0.5%
k2-k3 0.3%
k2-k4 0.8%
Nj1-k3 0.3%
Nj1-i3 1.9%
Ne1-d3 0.1%
Ne1-f3 0.6%
In order:
- h3 (61.1%)
- h4 (15.0%)
- g4 (7.7%)
- g3 (4.7%)
- Ni3 (1.9%)
- j3 (1.6%)
- f3 (1.5%)
- f4 (1.5%)
- All other moves combined (5%, < 1% each)
Dec 25, 2018
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#37
Nice info!
btw
How about adding our 4PC rating in the our chess.com profile statistics
Dec 26, 2018
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#38
teams red wins
d2-d3 67
d2-d4 205
e2-e3 465
e2-e4 160
f2-f3 1271
f2-f4 1121
g2-g3 3724
g2-g4 4903
h2-h3 64880
h2-h4 10280
i2-i3 151
i2-i4 290
j2-j3 1102
j2-j4 226
k2-k3 158
k2-k4 425
Nj1-k3 153
Nj1-i3 1344
Ne1-d3 87
Ne1-f3 386
teams red losses
d2-d3 186
d2-d4 447
e2-e3 712
e2-e4 383
f2-f3 1395
f2-f4 1502
g2-g3 4454
g2-g4 8623
h2-h3 44055
h2-h4 15956
i2-i3 379
i2-i4 809
j2-j3 1788
j2-j4 661
k2-k3 420
k2-k4 999
Nj1-k3 421
Nj1-i3 1869
Ne1-d3 148
Ne1-f3 700
Dec 26, 2018
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#39
we only store raw pgn4 which includes timestamps and clock times. for an opening explorer, the pgn would need to be broken down and the moves stored appopriately for such queries. i won't be doing that anytime soon. however, if someone else would like to offer such a service, i can supply the pgn for all games.
First move success rate (win/loss), Teams:
d3 26.5% / 73.5%
d4 31.4% / 68.6%
e3 39.5% / 60.5%
e4 29.5% / 70.5%
f3 47.7% / 52.3%
f4 42.7% / 57.3%
g3 45.5% / 54.5%
g4 36.2% / 63.8%
h3 59.6% / 40.4%
h4 39.2% / 60.8%
i3 28.5% / 71.5%
i4 26.4% / 73.6%
j3 38.1% / 61.9%
j4 25.5% / 74.5%
k3 27.3% / 72.7%
k4 29.8% / 70.2%
Nk3 26.7% / 73.3%
Ni3 41.8% / 58.2%
Nd3 37.0% / 63.0%
Nf3 35.5% / 64.5%
So, surprisingly, any move other than h3 has a higher losing chance than winning chance, according to statistics.
Top moves (losing chance < 60%):
- h3 (59.6% / 40.4%)
- f3 (47.7% / 52.3%)
- g3 (45.5% / 54.5%)
- f4 (42.7% / 57.3%)
- Ni3 (41.8% / 58.2%)
How often do opposites finish first and second?
overall (206k games):
44% of the time, the player opposite the winner got 2nd.
for all players 1450+: 54% (14.4k games)
for all players 1600+: 62% (830 games)
for all players 1650+: 70% (70 games)