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antonkulaga

I think it can be interesting to discuss typical openings in 4players chess. For example, I noticed that the following openings are the most frequent (at least for 2000-2400 players with who I usually play):

1) Making a queen with d2->d4+further propagation, or more rare variations with c or e pawns
2) Teaming opening with e2-e3 to get the queen out (with similar defense with moving c2 pawn to attack c pawn of the player who moved her queen)
3) Two knights opening, when one of the knights can be used to block pawn in the center
4) Indian opening to harass the player who moves before you with knight+bishop check (or at least distract her)
5) a2-a4 or h2-h4 openings

6) Some other ones that I forgot to mention?

For the last one, I do not understand the idea. Even though I saw it even done by 24xx+ rated players. I am curious to know what its intention is? Moving the rock out?

ChessMasterGS

Then there's the GS opening. 

Move left knight up, the move the knight pawn up, then attack your left's knight pawn, threatening to take, and get 10 free points. 

Learn to defend against this. I don't know why some people still fall for it.

tommerrall949

4 Player Chess Opening Expert here.

 

First thing's first, you're obviously talking about FFA. This doesn't have set openings as such at the lower levels, and at higher ratings, openings overlap considerably with teams openings. Some basics:

 

1) Making a queen will see you instantly checkmated at higher ratings. Stop doing it, and learn how to play with your pieces first. You'll never survive at 2200+ if you push for queens, so don't practise that!

2) Teaming opening of pushing h3 (coordinates are different on a 4PC board) and getting the queens out. This is awesome! It only works at high levels though, so make sure your opposite is good enough to understand the teams openings!

3) This is fairly common if you're playing at the 1900 level. I do recommend this if you're unable to team, it's nice and solid and not provocative in the slightest

4) This is bad - extremely easy to defend. Don't try it, it's a waste of moves

5) I assume here you mean push the rook pawn? Not bad, but certainly not the best. You're essentially saying 'I am passive' by playing this opening.

@chessmastergs

"Learn to defend against this. I don't know why some people still fall for it"

Fall for what? This is worse for red than it is for blue! It's simply a bishop trade but blue gets the advantage of an open file.

frosman

i'm level 1500. is there any good openings you could make for me?

ChessMasterGS
  1. I mainly use it in Hyperbullet/Bullet and lower-rated games, the small positional disadvantage is fine, I can make do with it.
  2. Oops didn't see the " simply a bishop trade" part. Not true. Gave a bad position in the picture above. When the queen has no escape squares. Attacking will result in a Knight for Bishop trade, after which you can also trade off bishop for rook. Then you can just abandon the left and focus on defending against the right.
  3. That being said, nobody even bothers to attack me either way for some reason. I'm sure that nobody even sees that I literally fianchetto with my queen.
MayimChayim

Cool stuff

4PC-Pug
ChessMasterGS wrote:
  1. I mainly use it in Hyperbullet/Bullet and lower-rated games, the small positional disadvantage is fine, I can make do with it.
  2. Oops didn't see the " simply a bishop trade" part. Not true. Gave a bad position in the picture above. When the queen has no escape squares. Attacking will result in a Knight for Bishop trade, after which you can also trade off bishop for rook. Then you can just abandon the left and focus on defending against the right.
  3. That being said, nobody even bothers to attack me either way for some reason. I'm sure that nobody even sees that I literally fianchetto with my queen.

it's called HYPERBULLET, not "slow where people can think"

Iknimaya
ChessMasterGS wrote:

Then there's the GS opening. 

Move left knight up, the move the knight pawn up, then attack your left's knight pawn, threatening to take, and get 10 free points. 

Learn to defend against this. I don't know why some people still fall for it.

"your" opening? please.  I was doing this (as many others also do) way before you.  Also: you still fall for it.

ChessMasterGS

Ok I hasty on calling it "my" opening, I just assumed that I use it the most grin.png

MaskedMadara

Masked's pawn opening

ChessMasterGS

Just claim whatever opening as your before anyone else beats you to it or says that you can't do that

zone_chess

I am 2300+ now and tried most of the above. The teaming approach does seem to work as it gets opponents on their toes.

Pushing the rook pawn is also good because it throws something in the face of the neighbor right from the start. Compare it to getting a pawn on the 6th rank at the first move in classical chess - it opens lots of opportunities.

But I - and I've seen Hikaru Nakamura do it too - now swear by the two knights opening. And then you set up a King's indian style defense and castle early. After that we aim for positional advantage using piece play. And we launch the center pawns only when the time is right, and we can (over)protect the squares they will be treading upon.

So we stick to the configurational nature of the game by never compromising activity and interconnectedness, among other factors, and that way move as one toward the endgame. It's the hardest style but in the end it's the best (I believe).

ChessMasterGS

Two Knights works in some positions but in the current setup you're better off just doing the classical openings... Hikaru is also extremely inexperienced at 4 player chess and does not view it as a serious game, so I doubt he has any useful information even present-day.