[4PC Variant]: Custom Starting Position

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Please submit new positions in a NEW forum post. Read https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/submitting-new-custom-positions before posting.

You can play any position casual, but only listed positions can be played rated.

The idea is to play your custom position casual with real players (not bots), see if they like it, get feedback, and make improvements and adjustments to your position until satisfied. If players enjoyed your game, you can request to have it listed, by posting the following in this topic, or in a new topic:

- Links to played games (games aborted, resigned on 2nd move, etc. do not count)

- Suggested name and time control

- Optional: Info-text to be displayed with the game.

Posts without linked games will be ignored or deleted from this topic.

 

Use the Edit Position tab to create any imaginable position. Select a spare piece and click on squares to drop it. Drag pieces anywhere.

Note: Rules (King of the Hill, Takeover etc) are not part of the position (fen4), they are part of a the game (pgn4).

The current FEN4 is shown in the textbox at the bottom. If you manually edit or paste the FEN4, click 'Load' below it to apply the changes.

Click 'Start from here' to test your position. Play a few moves. To recover your starting position, go back to the start of the game before switching back to 'Edit position'.

Don't forget to uncheck castling rights in positions where players should not be allowed to castle.

 

 

No Royal piece

If a player does not have a royal piece, he (obviously) cannot be checked or checkmated, so it is generally advantageous to be royal-less. If such a player resigns, the remaining players will share 20 points. If a player runs out of pieces, he will get 'stalemated' on his next turn, but no points are awarded for capturing his last piece, nor for getting stalemated by running out of pieces.

If a player has no royal piece, the first promoted king will become a royal king. Other promotions will not be "royalized". (or should they be?)

 

 

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@AwesomeChessPlayer0's request (I removed his posts, they are summarized here):

 

FEN4:

R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0-
3,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,3/
3,yP,yP,yP,yK,yP,yP,yP,yP,3/
3,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,3/
bP,bP,bP,1,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,1,gP,gP,gP/
bP,bP,bP,bP,1,yP,yP,yP,yP,1,gP,gP,gP,gP/
bP,bP,bP,bP,bP,1,yP,yP,1,gP,gP,gP,gP,gP/
bP,bP,bP,bP,bP,bP,2,gP,gP,gP,gP,gK,gP/
bP,bK,bP,bP,bP,bP,2,gP,gP,gP,gP,gP,gP/
bP,bP,bP,bP,bP,1,rP,rP,1,gP,gP,gP,gP,gP/
bP,bP,bP,bP,1,rP,rP,rP,rP,1,gP,gP,gP,gP/
bP,bP,bP,1,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,1,gP,gP,gP/
3,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,3/
3,rP,rP,rP,rP,rK,rP,rP,rP,3/
3,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,3

 

Name: "Pawn Wars"

FFA

Time control: 1|15D

Rules: King of the hill, 20-check, 1pt queen promotion

 

Sample Game: https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=1909149

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I've added "Pawn Wars" to the list.

Jason169

R-0,0,0,0-1,1,1,1-1,1,1,1-0,0,0,0-0-{'kingSquares':('h1','a8','g14','n7'),'lives':(1,1,1,1)}-
3,yK,yK,yK,yK,yK,yK,yK,yK,3/
3,dN,dN,dN,dN,dN,dN,dN,dN,3/
3,dB,dB,dB,dB,dB,dB,dB,dB,3/
bK,dN,dB,dR,dR,dR,dR,dR,dR,dR,dR,dB,dN,gK/
bK,dN,dB,dR,dD,dD,dD,dD,dD,dD,dR,dB,dN,gK/
bK,dN,dB,dR,dD,dQ,dQ,dQ,dQ,dD,dR,dB,dN,gK/
bK,dN,dB,dR,dD,dQ,dK,dK,dQ,dD,dR,dB,dN,gK/
bK,dN,dB,dR,dD,dQ,dK,dK,dQ,dD,dR,dB,dN,gK/
bK,dN,dB,dR,dD,dQ,dQ,dQ,dQ,dD,dR,dB,dN,gK/
bK,dN,dB,dR,dD,dD,dD,dD,dD,dD,dR,dB,dN,gK/
bK,dN,dB,dR,dR,dR,dR,dR,dR,dR,dR,dB,dN,gK/
3,dB,dB,dB,dB,dB,dB,dB,dB,3/
3,dN,dN,dN,dN,dN,dN,dN,dN,3/
3,rK,rK,rK,rK,rK,rK,rK,rK,3


Name: Minesweeper II

Rules: Diplomacy +40 Ox4 KotH 1-Check(It is a mistake on the photo) Capture-The-King No Promotion(No Pawns)

Time Control: 5s/6s+25D/15s+15D


https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=1995798-21

 

Pava876Smart

[StartFen4 "R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0-{'kingSquares':('h3','a7','g12','n8')}-3,yB,yN,yR,yB,yK,yR,yQ,yN,3/3,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,3/5,yK,yK,yK,yK,5/bB,bP,3,yP,yP,yP,yP,3,gP,gN/bN,bP,10,gP,gQ/bR,bP,bK,bP,2,X,X,2,gP,gK,gP,gR/bB,bP,bK,bP,1,X,dK,dK,X,1,gP,gK,gP,gK/bK,bP,bK,bP,1,X,dK,dK,X,1,gP,gK,gP,gB/bR,bP,bK,bP,2,X,X,2,gP,gK,gP,gR/bQ,bP,10,gP,gN/bN,bP,3,rP,rP,rP,rP,3,gP,gB/5,rK,rK,rK,rK,5/3,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,3/3,rN,rQ,rR,rK,rB,rR,rN,rB,3"]
[Variant "FFA"]
[RuleVariants "DeadKingWalking EnPassant KotH SpectatorChat Diplomacy Prom=6"]
[CurrentMove "0"]

Rules: Diplomacy +40  KotH 6th promotion (any)

Name: Real Puzzler

Time control: 3m+5s

Sorry I am unable to get a picture

 

kopashtar

Same as double spiral but RB vs YG with 5 checks on the kings. Knights of round table.

Promote to knights on 8th

Capture the King, RB vs YG

R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0-{'kingSquares'sad.png'a4','d14','n11','k1'),'lives'sad.png5,5,5,5)}-
3,bK,bP,4,gP,gN,3/
3,bD,bP,4,gP,gB,3/
3,bR,bP,4,gP,gR,3/
yN,yB,yR,X,X,X,X,X,X,dP,X,yR,yD,yK/
yP,yP,yP,dP,yK,yR,yN,1,gP,gK,X,yP,yP,yP/
3,X,yP,yP,yP,1,gP,gR,X,3/
3,X,4,gP,gN,X,3/
3,X,bN,bP,4,X,3/
3,X,bR,bP,1,rP,rP,rP,X,3/
rP,rP,rP,X,bK,bP,1,rN,rR,rK,dP,rP,rP,rP/
rK,rD,rR,X,dP,X,X,X,X,X,X,rR,rB,rN/
3,bR,bP,4,gP,gR,3/
3,bB,bP,4,gP,gD,3/
3,bN,bP,4,gP,gK,3

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@YeJunChi regarding 'minesweeper II', red always wins! note that the combo KotH+captTheKing means that a king must be stopped two steps before reaching the center, or else it's too late.

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Pava876Smart wrote:

[StartFen4 "R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0-{'kingSquares':('h3','a7','g12','n8')}-3,yB,yN,yR,yB,yK,yR,yQ,yN,3/3,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,3/5,yK,yK,yK,yK,5/bB,bP,3,yP,yP,yP,yP,3,gP,gN/bN,bP,10,gP,gQ/bR,bP,bK,bP,2,X,X,2,gP,gK,gP,gR/bB,bP,bK,bP,1,X,dK,dK,X,1,gP,gK,gP,gK/bK,bP,bK,bP,1,X,dK,dK,X,1,gP,gK,gP,gB/bR,bP,bK,bP,2,X,X,2,gP,gK,gP,gR/bQ,bP,10,gP,gN/bN,bP,3,rP,rP,rP,rP,3,gP,gB/5,rK,rK,rK,rK,5/3,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,3/3,rN,rQ,rR,rK,rB,rR,rN,rB,3"]
[Variant "FFA"]
[RuleVariants "DeadKingWalking EnPassant KotH SpectatorChat Diplomacy Prom=6"]
[CurrentMove "0"]

Rules: Diplomacy +40  KotH 6th promotion (any)

Name: Real Puzzler

Time control: 3m+5s

Sorry I am unable to get a picture

 

@Pava876Smart

have you played this game? please link

6th rank promotion seems pretty rough, seems unlikely a king will reach the center before getting mated. i guess that's true even without the added queens by promotion.

setup is equal to war for throne (except for material) so maybe name it something similar?

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kopashtar wrote:

Same as double spiral but RB vs YG with 5 checks on the kings. Knights of round table.

Promote to knights on 8th

Capture the King, RB vs YG

R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0-{'kingSquares''a4','d14','n11','k1'),'lives'5,5,5,5)}-
3,bK,bP,4,gP,gN,3/
3,bD,bP,4,gP,gB,3/
3,bR,bP,4,gP,gR,3/
yN,yB,yR,X,X,X,X,X,X,dP,X,yR,yD,yK/
yP,yP,yP,dP,yK,yR,yN,1,gP,gK,X,yP,yP,yP/
3,X,yP,yP,yP,1,gP,gR,X,3/
3,X,4,gP,gN,X,3/
3,X,bN,bP,4,X,3/
3,X,bR,bP,1,rP,rP,rP,X,3/
rP,rP,rP,X,bK,bP,1,rN,rR,rK,dP,rP,rP,rP/
rK,rD,rR,X,dP,X,X,X,X,X,X,rR,rB,rN/
3,bR,bP,4,gP,gR,3/
3,bB,bP,4,gP,gD,3/
3,bN,bP,4,gP,gK,3

 

have you played this game? please link

name?

is this correct?

[StartFen4 "R-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0,0,0,0-0-{'kingSquares': ('a4','e5','e10','k1'),'lives': (5,5,5,5)}-3,bK,bP,4,gP,gN,3/3,bD,bP,4,gP,gB,3/3,bR,bP,4,gP,gR,3/yN,yB,yR,X,X,X,X,X,X,dP,X,yR,yD,yK/yP,yP,yP,dP,yK,yR,yN,1,gP,gK,X,yP,yP,yP/3,X,yP,yP,yP,1,gP,gR,X,3/3,X,4,gP,gN,X,3/3,X,bN,bP,4,X,3/3,X,bR,bP,1,rP,rP,rP,X,3/rP,rP,rP,X,bK,bP,1,rN,rR,rK,dP,rP,rP,rP/rK,rD,rR,X,dP,X,X,X,X,X,X,rR,rB,rN/3,bR,bP,4,gP,gR,3/3,bB,bP,4,gP,gD,3/3,bN,bP,4,gP,gK,3"]
[Variant "Teams"]
[RuleVariants "Teammate=1 EnPassant CaptureTheKing 5-check Prom=8 PromoteTo=N"]
[CurrentMove "0"]

 

Jason169
spacebar wrote:

@YeJunChi regarding 'minesweeper II', red always wins! note that the combo KotH+captTheKing means that a king must be stopped two steps before reaching the center, or else it's too late.

Diplomacy is very important. With Diplomacy you tell others to put their Kings in the Center 12 squares(not including g7, g8, h7, h8) and then use your Fake Kings to Checkmate others.

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red marches his king to the center and there is no way to stop him (unless i am missing something). if there is no possible way to stop him, diplomacy makes no difference.

Jason169
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red marches his king to the center and there is no way to stop him (unless i am missing something). if there is no possible way to stop him, diplomacy makes no difference.

Kh2 Kb7 Kg13 Km8 Kh3 Kc7 Kg12 Kl8 Kh4 Kd7 Kg11 Kk8 Kh5 Ke7 Kg10 Kj8 Kh6 Kf7 Kg9 Ki8

Take off Capture the King

masterrunt

Can yo add this too?

 

Game name- King's land

Time control- 2 min 15 sec delay

Type- Free for all

masterrunt

Rules- 9 check , Ox4 3rd =king  and +40

masterrunt

R-0,0,0,0-1,1,1,1-1,1,1,1-0,0,0,0-0-{'kingSquares'sad.png'h1','a7','h14','n7'),'lives'sad.png99,99,99,99)}-
3,yK,yK,yK,yK,yK,yK,yK,yK,3/
3,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,yP,3/
3,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,3/
bK,bP,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,gP,gK/
bK,bP,X,dD,X,yP,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,gP,gK/
bK,bP,dD,X,dD,X,yD,X,gP,X,dD,X,gP,gK/
bK,bP,X,dD,X,bD,X,gD,X,dD,X,dD,gP,gK/
bK,bP,dD,X,bP,X,rD,X,dD,X,dD,X,gP,gK/
bK,bP,X,dD,X,dD,X,rP,X,dD,X,dD,gP,gK/
bK,bP,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,gP,gK/
bK,bP,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,gP,gK/
3,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,X,dD,3/
3,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,rP,3/
3,rK,rK,rK,rK,rK,rK,rK,rK,3

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have you played this game? please share links to games.

By the way it's helpful if others (eg anyone reading this) states their opinion, on why they like or dislike the suggested variants. Or at least up- or downvote by posting a +1 or a -1.

Sorry but I'm not convinced by the recent suggestions above. Posting games where they were actually played will help.

 

masterrunt

Sample game link-

 

 

 

https://www.chess.com/4-player-chess?g=2047266

masterrunt

if possible, plz change 9 check into 1 or 2 check

masterrunt

and 2|15 delay into 1|15

 

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@masterrunt I've added "Master Hunt" to the list. Do you have a better name your game?

 

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