Are cheaters not banned from Variants?

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rdmorphy

It appears cheaters are not banned when cheating in Variants?

Specifically I'm talking about 3-Check, KOTH and other two-player variants.

I never experienced cheating in classic chess, which is fantastic. Unfortunately it seems Variants are excluded from all the fancy AI to detect cheating.

 

defrag71

do we win money here? I don't think so.
why don't you just enjoy playing and accept some people play like machines...
block those players that annoy you, simple.

JkCheeseChess
rdmorphy wrote:

It appears cheaters are not banned when cheating in Variants?

Specifically I'm talking about 3-Check, KOTH and other two-player variants.

I never experienced cheating in classic chess, which is fantastic. Unfortunately it seems Variants are excluded from all the fancy AI to detect cheating.

pretty sure they were when Arma was still admin, but they stepped down...now it's up to the other guys tongue.png

rdmorphy
defrag71 hat geschrieben:

do we win money here? I don't think so.
why don't you just enjoy playing and accept some people play like machines...
block those players that annoy you, simple.

I don't mean strong players/GMs that play "like" machines. Those guys beat me every day and I don't mind that at all, I can learn something new along the way happy.png

What I'm talking about is obvious, blatant cheating. The type even the most basic AI would detect, like a low-rated player who suddenly has a 100% winrate, makes perfect moves only and thinks exactly constant time (i.e. the time it takes to copy the last move to a computer chess engine, get the move then execute it).

 

Green_Sleeves

If you suspect someone is cheating in variants, you can still report them to the Variants admins, I believe. I’m pretty sure that people can be play-banned on the variants server but not chess.com as a whole if they are caught cheating at 3+ And such.

defrag71
rdmorphy wrote:

I don't mean strong players/GMs that play "like" machines. Those guys beat me every day and I don't mind that at all, I can learn something new along the way

What I'm talking about is obvious, blatant cheating. The type even the most basic AI would detect, like a low-rated player who suddenly has a 100% winrate, makes perfect moves only and thinks exactly constant time (i.e. the time it takes to copy the last move to a computer chess engine, get the move then execute it).

I'm into engine programming and many variants has either no engine developed or too weak to beat strong players.
Even if not the case, at fast time controls, say 5/3 incr, how can you cheat without losing too much time?
Duck Chess has not yet an engine so far, so does Fog of War.
Be cool and accept blatant players are just young pseudo robots ;-)

Max_Wolfe
rdmorphy wrote:

It appears cheaters are not banned when cheating in Variants?

Specifically I'm talking about 3-Check, KOTH and other two-player variants.

I never experienced cheating in classic chess, which is fantastic. Unfortunately it seems Variants are excluded from all the fancy AI to detect cheating.

 

We don't have AI that can detect cheating over the whole server, however, we do have skilled admin who can identify cheating if it is shown to them (eg reports). 

Cheating is especially predominant in some variants, those with engines publicly available in particular.

You may report directly to myself or another admin if you suspect cheating, but we prefer you use the report function within the server happy.png 

JkCheeseChess

you have max to help you and hopefully me when i become 18 years old tongue.png

rdmorphy

Thank you for all the answers!

The player has been permabanned so all is well happy.png

(Note it was on the main server not on the Variants server)

 

JkCheeseChess
rune_raider wrote:

The irony is that Max_Wolfe is our best admin.

well um...there's other admins out there who actually do their job pretty well, so i wouldn't say that...

hadenturnage
rdmorphy wrote:

It appears cheaters are not banned when cheating in Variants?

Specifically I'm talking about 3-Check, KOTH and other two-player variants.

I never experienced cheating in classic chess, which is fantastic. Unfortunately it seems Variants are excluded from all the fancy AI to detect cheating.

JkCheeseChess

how do you cheat in that variant anyway

also i am an admin, i will forward the report to other admins and we'll see

JkCheeseChess
Glykerios2 wrote:

He cheats with an engine

please check your messages. we will see if we can figure something out privately