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Busting the King's Indian, an idea with White

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newchesscorner64
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Dec 15, 2024
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How to play with the King's Indian with White.
an idea which is idea to play is Nge2!? folllowed by Ng3
Typically against Nge2 strikes back with c7-c5 and we close the center with White.
What is the drawback on Ng3 ? well Black has h7-h5
This is modern chess !
White hasn't finished his/her development. The King is on e1.
But we have secured the center ! The chess engines like Stockfish are stating White is safe because of the grip on the center.
and on h7-h5, White has Bg5! which is annoying.
Would you like to see variations and a recent game with it ? 
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SwimmerBill
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Dec 16, 2024
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I dont know the variation, but if I were facing it, I'd ignore the knight on g3 and get moving with queenside counterplay. The issue I'd see with Ne2-g3 is that it has little use there for offensive operation in the center.

In that game I thought the whole h5, Qb6-c7-d8-g5, Nh7 was wasting time compared with directly Qc7, Nd7 Rb8 and b5. Of course, with fast time controls, you operate on intuitive patterns and every move made fits with common ones. It's all easier in retrospect!

On another issue-- if you take suggestions, I'd like to hear more about the a3 line vs center counter.

-Bill

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SwimmerBill wrote:

I dont know the variation, but if I were facing it, I'd ignore the knight on g3 and get moving with queenside counterplay. The issue I'd see with Ne2-g3 is that it has little use there for offensive operation in the center.

In that game I thought the whole h5, Qb6-c7-d8-g5, Nh7 was wasting time compared with directly Qc7, Nd7 Rb8 and b5. Of course, with fast time controls, you operate on intuitive patterns and every move made fits with common ones. It's all easier in retrospect!

On another issue-- if you take suggestions, I'd like to hear more about the a3 line vs center counter.

-Bill

Great point. It would be interesting to find a game where Black facees active play with Rb8 and b5 as you suggested.

on your second question, are you looking at 1e4 d5 2ed5 Qd5 3 Nc3 Qa5 4a3!?