Central Control Analysis of your games

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knightLite

This forum is a place where we can submit your games that you would like talk about and have analyzed by others and see how well you were in control of the center, or not.

I will be submitting a game soon with my annotations and thoughts about how the center was controlled and how it affected the game. If you would like to submit yours now, feel free at anytime and we will do our best at analyzing it.

Eric

Darkcloudy

Heres a game which I thought that could help those not-so-strong in the opening,better themselves(Controlling the Centre)

knightLite

The English Opening: Symmetrical Variation, Fianchetto Variation. A good game for you and you definately controlled the center in this game. Perhaps white should have tried 7. e4 instead of d3 as his c pawn did not have to be supported at that moment. Even 9. e4 may have been a better move instead of the Bishop move. Even though the a pawn would have been an isolated pawn after the knight exchange, his center pawns would have been much stronger.

Its amazing that your opponent only crossed the 5th rank 3 times and that was only to exchange pieces not to stay there!

Good job Darkcloudy!

turn

nice, Knightlite! Superb! The enemy wasn't quite good at controlling the center, i RECKON.........

killthequeen

Hey Knight lite i would have liked to see your game go into a 4 pawn attack. best central control ever.

knightLite

Thanks turn, for the nice comment.

killthequeen, I have another broad pawn advance game I will show later that you may like then! Although there is a blunder or two in it, I believe that it will also be a great learning game.

I resubmitted my with Supavuth containing the 2200 strength chess.com's analysis of the game. Sort of an experiment as well as a learning experience. I want to see if the MOVE LIST on the bottom of the game board will allow, or at least show the alternate moves as well as the actual moves made.

My mistakes (and yes I made quite a few :-) dropped me from status of "decisive advantage" to only a "moderate advantage" several times. It is interesting to see some of the computer's suggestions versus my moves.

Note the computer analysis suggests the Pawn Lever f5 on moves 18. 19. & 23. with scenarios leaving me with a decisive advantage and definite control of the center

Another reoccurring suggestion, ie 28., was to aim my rooks and queen at Supavuth's d pawn bearing down in the center! In the game I was focusing on the immediate battle area! Trying to break through on the kingside. I think this is a great lesson for controlling the center as we tend to focus on the area of attack instead of maintaining central control and enjoying the benefits of superiority that it brings.

knightLite

Yes!!! it works! By using the MOVE LIST at the bottom right corner of the board you can see the analysis. Click on the red moves to play the alternate computer  suggested moves and then back onto the black for the actual game.

Thanks for your patience. I hope this is something we can use as a training tool to show our games.

Darkcloudy

Here is a game where I exhibit Controlling the Centre from a closed French Defense.I was hoping to transpose into the e6 Variation of The Sicilian Defense, but we entered a variation I was so unfamiliar with. But I still stuck to the Principles of Chess,and I crushed-don't mean to be boastful,but this win was so pretty- the opponent with some nice tactics.His first mistakes was to let his e pawn hang loose.

Darkcloudy

Great analysis of my game,KnightLite!

Darkcloudy

However,playing e4 would leave White with a backward d pawn,and no compensation save for a kick of my knight.In the long run,White would have lost even sooner.

Darkcloudy

Here is a game I played around 5 mins ago.I really liked it.I entered some Variation of the english I never even saw lol that was when I played e4.Anyway,I still thought it was a sound move going into a Maroczy Bind sort of setup.

jimthemagic

Sorry if I interrupt something, I am learning this new tool Chess.com and I was invited to your group just couple of hours ago. Here is an example of Scandinavian Defence, also known as Center Counter Defence, where little moves in the middle can solve the game.

jimthemagic

Later position where just a small move in the middle does it for the black:

39. - e5 solves the game finally for the black. If 40. fxe5 then 40. - f5 and the black king goes and gets white kingside pawns.

knightLite
jimthemagic wrote:

Sorry if I interrupt something, I am learning this new tool Chess.com and I was invited to your group just couple of hours ago. Here is an example of Scandinavian Defence, also known as Center Counter Defence, where little moves in the middle can solve the game.

 

 


Hi jimthemagic,

You would never be a bother...this is what our team is all about!

My opinion or answer to the first diagram you have here is that 4. d4 is a much stronger move in this position. 4. d3 hands the center over to black with 4.... e5 or 4.... c5 and would be in control of the d4 square.

In the 2nd diagram, e5 looks like a great move. with the white King tied to the black a pawn the black king should have no problem infiltrating and eating up the white pawns on the king-side.

Thanks for the examples and comments!Smile

jimthemagic

Thank you knightLite!

If someone is interested in checking out the whole game, it's available at

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=20883297

Thanks again!

jim

knightLite

hey jimthemagic,

Very nice game there! I think it is important to note that you had complete control of the d5 square throughout the entire game. In fact after your Queen left it on move 3. the square was never occupied again. you essentially denied that avenue of attack through the center to your opponent.

A couple of times I thought you would use that square for an outpost, once for your Knight and then for your Rook; but I see in the end it was not necessary. Wink

Thanks for sharing your game...it was fun to go over!

jimthemagic

Hi again,

I play quite a lot of Scandinavian Defence, but usually with not as good results as this time. I think one of the biggest mistakes white makes there is 22. f4 and loses a pawn. Anyway it may not have been enough for black to win without a stronger play else where.

Actually I did try to find a good example of central command in some of my losses, that way I would have had a better lesson for myself. Maybe in the future I shall proudly present a fine central command of my opponents.

jimthemagic

Another opening often used by me is King's Indian Defence, where black first gives central command to white and tries to regain it later.

jimthemagic

Here I could use an extra hand pointing me all the mistakes of mine. The entire game is here:

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=21189325

at the 14th move situation is following and I play as black 14. - Nf8.

Any other suggestions or is the game already whites?

knightLite

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Hi jimthemagic,

A couple of points I noticed in your game that may be of interest to you, of course these points are my opinion only.. First I think that you could have faired better had you pushed your e pawn to e5 on move 6.... instead of 6.... Nbd7. Choosing to push the c pawn to c5 without preparing to stop the advance of Black's e4-e5 secured the center for him and to his advantage. Generally when that happens attacks on the wings are the only way to proceed. Which brings me to the second point.

I believe that the Kingside was the place you should have started your attack immediately, even though you had already pushed the c pawn. Bringing your Queen to the Queenside left her with little to do. I saw very little chance for any serious threats on the Queenside, at least none that could be developed in time before White over-ran your position with his pawns.

As far as your move 14....Nf8, I guess I would have preferred to regroup my position by moving the Queen;  14....Qd8 and 15....Kh8 16....Nfg8 and when White pushed his pawn to f6 I would jump the d-Knight to e5 and develop the white Bishop where needed; all with the idea of attacking his exposed King as soon as the position allowed. Of course it looks like there would be a little storm to weather first Wink.

Thanks for sharing!