angelo_5113 wrote:
so variants and 4pc becoming same thing?
They have been the same for ages
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angelo_5113 wrote:
no like same server
Well, yes they will be
I know it's the hard time since there're h*ll lots of things in 4pc
I'm curious about why all the variants leaderboard got removed. Any idea?
May 23, 2022
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#70
exit 4 Player Chess in order to go back to variants and then click leaderboards, because any 4PC variants are separated from 4 Player Chess
can i be admin
Jul 5, 2023
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#72
bagdavadze7 wrote:
I've noticed a pretty solid decrease in the games and players lately
That's a simple one, and in short, the game is basically frozen in place.
- Chess.com isn't advertising variants, so new players usually come from friends' recommendations or from accidentally clicking on the tab.
- Chess.com's official guides and support.chess.com pages are extremely out of date (2-3 years), and with most 4PC tacticians not making their own guides after the merge of variants and 4 Player Chess, it's hard to improve on your own.
- Server issues, although mostly fixed, still persist to this day in the form of unannounced maintenance times, lack of transparency, etc.
- The interface is reported to be somewhat hard to navigate for some users (although this is mostly from the not-so tech savvy people).
Jul 5, 2023
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#73
When I say the game is frozen, take a look here:
This is 4PC (blue) and Duck Chess (red).
Both of them had their spikes when big content creators (2020, GothamChess, etc.), (2022-2023, IMRosen, etc.) made videos popularizing them. But without continuous support and a clear lack of views, they stopped making videos as if it were a trend (which it was, in a regard), which clearly is a problem.
After the huge spike in the early months of this year, we likely retained about new 1000 players who now continuously play (just by looking at leaderboard numbers), but 4PC has never gotten popular and stayed popular, and Duck Chess is now just a husk of its former glory 
(Obviously, I am not a statistician, I'm just using common sense, but it's a sensible way to see it regardless)
Jul 5, 2023
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#74
ChessMasterGS wrote:
bagdavadze7 wrote:
I've noticed a pretty solid decrease in the games and players lately
That's a simple one, and in short, the game is basically frozen in place.
- Chess.com isn't advertising variants, so new players usually come from friends' recommendations or from accidentally clicking on the tab.
- Chess.com's official guides and support.chess.com pages are extremely out of date (2-3 years), and with most 4PC tacticians not making their own guides after the merge of variants and 4 Player Chess, it's hard to improve on your own.
- Server issues, although mostly fixed, still persist to this day in the form of unannounced maintenance times, lack of transparency, etc.
- The interface is reported to be somewhat hard to navigate for some users (although this is mostly from the not-so tech savvy people).
When (if ever) there is a Teams Championship, I am thinking of taking a 2000-2200 player and teaching them the finer points of the game. Afterwards, I'd be open to making a guide towards that same audience.
Jul 5, 2023
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#75
ChessMasterGS wrote:
When I say the game is frozen, take a look here:
This is 4PC (blue) and Duck Chess (red).
Both of them had their spikes when big content creators (2020, GothamChess, etc.), (2022-2023, IMRosen, etc.) made videos popularizing them. But without continuous support and a clear lack of views, they stopped making videos as if it were a trend (which it was, in a regard), which clearly is a problem.
After the huge spike in the early months of this year, we likely retained about 1000 players who now continuously play (just by looking at leaderboard numbers), but 4PC has never gotten popular and stayed popular, and Duck Chess is now just a husk of its former glory
(Obviously, I am not a statistician, I'm just using common sense, but it's a sensible way to see it regardless)
I'd be curious to see how this Google trend data compares with server data such as number of games, number of players, etc. Of course this information has not been made readily available to most, although it definitely should.
Jul 5, 2023
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#76
Things I see as fixable issues. I think the interface could be clearer; I think it may be overwhelming. I also worry that many players get in games against higher rated players. I wonder and hope 4pc and variants tracks players to see what variants, game results, and strength of opponents maximizes retention
hi
Apr 12, 2025
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#79
Why aren't a few club admins consulted before enhancements are made that affect clubs? Many, "Enhancements", just make things more difficult.
so variants and 4pc becoming same thing?