Chess.com V.S. GM Alexander Onischuk

This is it Members of the Chess.com Alliance! What the Alliance was created to do and what we have been practicing for this past year!  We should start by recruiting vote chess players to bring the discussion here in fear of the trolls that harmed the last game. I wanted to make a post here because chess.com pings everyone when a new topic has been posted whereas it does not when a new Vote game is starting soon. Good Luck everybody! Let's WIN this for chess.com!!!

Btw, GM Onischuk is rated 200 points higher than GM Pogonina and she crushed us...we're doomed...    :/

However I think we are better as a team this time around so hopefully it will go better.

It seems like a message to the broader forum would need to be formulated very well, or else it will be interpreted as a sign of separation -- not a good think when a new team has just been formed.

Ideas on how not to sound like we're disregarding "the will of masses" and forming a parallel discussion? 

I assume we want it mostly targeted for participants who have not experienced previous such vote games (especially very large vote games) and for whom the notion might be quite new that there tend to be a few who occupy the airwaves with no meaningful message versus many who have a message but which gets drowned out in the noise.

or else we could follow an opposite strategy.

I think that trying to sell the concept of the Alliance to the many that have not requested us anything of the kind will appear as an “elitarian deviationism” and possibly put  Alliance in a bad light.

Most of people will participate to the game just because excited to play against a GM and any attempt to tell them “it would be better to follow our advice” would likely be rejected. The same applies as far as the recruiting is concerned.

Taking into consideration that for first 3 to 5 moves the majority will follow database indications about the most successful continuation and that during such a period a considerable share of more inconsistent birds will flow away, I also think the Alliance members wishing to participate to the game could simply intervene in the debate by:

·        introducing themselves as “Alliance members”

·        suggesting the move to be played as a result of a collective restricted discussion within Alliance

·        inviting people wishing to know more about the “Alliance” to visit its page and/or to contact any of its administrators

In addition we may ourselves separately contact those players that by the quality of their advices and of the kind of their submitting could appears potential Alliance new members

Words of wisdom! 

I like this plan, and at present see no downsides to it, and no better alternative.

very nice plan the_whitebeard. I like it as well.

This is awesome, and 24 hours per move. I cannot wait to see the Alliance's analysis presented during the match.

I think we must invite more members with posting the link of the group to the game from now ( not waiting the game beggins ) , what are you thinking ? More members of the group more votes for our move

While broader representation can be indeed helpful, I am not sure how this fits in with the idea suggested by the_whitebeard (above) -- which seems reasonable and we, in principle, agree with.

The first few moves of a game are always out of a database and can't be argued much; they are often a matter of personal preference by players.  That said, we may be able to have impact at the start of a game by suggesting broad paths that may be effective against the given opponent, e.g., a more tactical/dynamic/sharp game versus a more solid/positional/static structure.

Do we know which of these two types of games GM Onischuk prefers to go in himself?

Hello Alliance,

Here is the information we need for GM Alexander Onischuk:

http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=14101025

Does this provide any information about actual games and openings?  I know it does about ratings and opponents...

Absolutely _valentin_,

Here is that link:

http://ratings.fide.com/view_games.phtml?id=14101025&name=%22Onischuk__Alexander(USA)%22