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Christopher_Parsons

Aug 1, 2018

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Joan DuBois <JDuBois@uschess.org>

To:my_mail_hub@yahoo.com,Alex Dunne,contactlog

Jul 30 at 9:10 AM

Hi Mr. Parsons,

Thank you for your email. Any games related to US Chess Correspondence Chess need to go through our Correspondence Chess Director Alex Dunne regardless of whether you are playing through the mail; email; ICCF Webserver for our Walter Muir. We do not offer CC play on any other chess site.

Your email has been copied to CCD Alex Dunne so you may also hear from him on this.

Thanks again -

Joan DuBois

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Subject: Contact Form # 51644: Correspondence Chess

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From: Christopher Scott Parsons 16693903 <my_mail_hub@yahoo.com>

Date: Sat 28 Jul 2018 1:48:37 pm CDT

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Subject: Contact Form # 51644: Correspondence Chess

I was interested in playing correspondence chess with other USCF members, via the Chess.com site and US Chess club there, where there are already rated USCF games being played and monitored. I was wondering if it would be acceptable to use the site and submit the results the same way that the other online games are submitted for rating ? I thought I had read that email could perhaps be an acceptable alternative to snail mail, if the Chess.com site doesn't seem to be an acceptable alternative to snail mail. Could you please reply with all of the pertinent information to my email and also forward a copy to the US Chess club at Chess.com, if indeed this is an alternative means to play rated correspondence ? Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.

In conclusion, it appears that the USCF has made an exclusive contract to do business with ICCF, to do all correspondence on their site, which I think is a mistake on the part of the USCF, not only monetarily, but simply from a public relations standpoint.

Exclusive contracts such as their's, only serve to provoke the aggitation of their members or potential members. For me personally, it is too much in violation of anti-trust sentiments. It forces members to have to purchase a 2nd membership to another chess site, to use a service that shouldn't be relegated to anyone place. The USCF should have recognized this ahead of time and not appeared so desperate for revenue. In my opinion, Chess.com has a far superior website in terms of services offered and community of users. I am of the mindset that we members here and perhaps even potential members here, should consider a petition to both Chess.com and the USCF, to get an arrangement made to be able to play correspondence here. I already pay for a premium membership to both entities. I should haven't to pay even more to play rated correspondence online.

Don't even get me started about the allowable use of engines on ICCF...

Lee

Aug 1, 2018

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Hey Chris,

It's on my list of things to discuss with the new USCF director, Carol Meyer. She's great and I think we'll see some fruitful relationships develop between Chess.com and USCF for OTB stuff, correspondence play and cheat detection. But I wouldn't hold my breath for it to move fast ;-)

ijgeoffrey

Aug 1, 2018

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For the record Chris, I play USCC, and they allow you to play your games over chess.com, if both players agree. I've done it before. I spoke with Alex directly and he said it was fine.

NM fpawn

Aug 1, 2018

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Be aware that the standard US Chess correspondence time control is 10 moves every 30 days. This is significantly different from the daily time control of 3 days per move found on Chess.com (e.g. you might wish to spend a full week studying a critical position). I suppose two players could agree to play at any time control, as long as no dispute arises over a time forfeit.

Christopher_Parsons

Aug 1, 2018

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fpawn wrote:

Be aware that the standard US Chess correspondence time control is 10 moves every 30 days. This is significantly different from the daily time control of 3 days per move found on Chess.com (e.g. you might wish to spend a full week studying a critical position). I suppose two players could agree to play at any time control, as long as no dispute arises over a time forfeit.

I usually move multiple times per day. Thanks for the warning though.

mattchess

Aug 2, 2018

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I play Correspondence chess through ICCF, CCLA and USCF on the ICCF server. USCF and CCLA games while played on the ICCF server are not rated by ICCF, they are rated by USCF and CCLA respectively. Further, the tournament directors and rules are USCF and CCLA rather than ICCF. Engine use isn't allowed for USCF and CCLA games, whereas it is for ICCF games.

That isn't to say that they don't suffer from the common problem of what to do about it - but USCF and CCLA do expressly state that engines are not to be used and they review the games. So in that respect playing a USCF correspondence game on the ICCF server is no different than playing it any other way.

I am not arguing against arranging something for Chess.com - just wanted to clarify. The major issue I see for chess.com is the time controls...but for USCF at least I think that if players all agree then there would not be an issue. I think for this to move forward what it would take is a USCF TD agreeing to run the tournament and a group of players all agreeing to the time control and rules and then coordinating with Alex Dunne.

Commando-Poppins

Dec 30, 2020

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#7

Chess.com has 14 days per move option.