Creating a Stonewall attack repertoire

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kalle99

Hello! I am new to  the Stonewall attack..but very fascinated of it. I have decided to take it up as a weapon as white. But I can not only play the Stonewall attack....one must have a repertoire. Anyone here playing the Stonewall attack regurlarly ? Personally I think i will go for the 1.f4 Bird move order...there are certainly drawbacks to this as there are advantages. The point is that so many people are playing 1....d5 against the Bird but they dont play a pawn to d5 if you open 1.d5 Nf6 2. e3. Then they go for a KID setup aiming for a timely crushing  e5 blow.

Here we can represent our Stonewall attack repertoires and explain why we have chosen a particular repertoire. What is important to take into account when creating a Stonewall attack repertoire ? I will certainly represent my own Stonewall attack repertoire as fast as it is created. But any help from the group will help Smile

kalle99
LucidDream wrote:

First, take a glance at Yaacov's enlightenment on altering the direction of your opening to take on the KID systems opponents will take against your impending Stonewall set up. I have used it on various occassions OTB, maybe a few times on this site, but with good results.

Lucid


 I will study the KID article from Yaacovs lecture. I will also look for alternative ways of meeting the KID. Yaacovs (And GM Soltis suggestion too) approach against the KID looks interesting indeed. Any other interesting setups against the KID after white has played 1.d4 Nf6 2. e3    ?

rawtaterz

no !!!   1.d4 Nf6 2.Bf5!      go get a book called the colle system by soltis. its not a stonewall reportoire ur after its a colle.

rawtaterz

i meant 2.Bg5

ConstantReminder
rawtaterz wrote:

no !!!   1.d4 Nf6 2.Bf5!      go get a book called the colle system by soltis. its not a stonewall reportoire ur after its a colle.


 With your correction of Bg5!, it is actually the Trompowksy (Trompovsky), which I am well versed in.

And actually 1.d4 Nf6 2.e3 does indeed begin a Stonewall set up and not necessarily a full colle set up if your are able to make the f4 push early. The colle system, is of course, a basis to the Stonewall attack, with the general moves 1. d4 2. e3 3. Nf3 4. Bd3 5. 0-0 6. Re1 7. c3 8. Nbd2 9. e4, however I do agree you should be well versed in the colle system when venturing into the Stonewall attack, not to mention the statements I made originally pointing to the direction of Yaacov Norowitz, who discusses switching to a Colle-Zukertort position when facing KID or similar black defenses,with general moves such as 1. d4 2. Nf3 3. e3 4. Bd3 5. b3 6. Bb2 7. Nbd2 8. 0-0.

Lucid

ConstantReminder

As a following note, I do give my approval on the trompowsky, and use it as one of my top 3 openings. If you are unnerved about using an aggressive opening definitely take up a solid position with a Stonewall attack, or Colle like system.

Lucid

knightassassin
The bird move order is a better way of entering the stonewall than 1. D4
antne003

I too am   getting interested in the  stonewall attack for white  and  the dutch stonewall defense while playing black.

 

i have also enjoyed the colle zuketort  and the scotch game as  white

all these endeavors with openings and defenses haven't markingly  increase  my site  rating.

 

                                           wishing you the best with whatever direction you chose

 

                                                             thanks  antne003

antne003

deAR kalle,  I AM NEWTO THE STONEWALL ATTACK AND NOT THAT GREAT AT  CHESS

SINCE MY STROKE LEFT MY LEFT SIDE P;ARALYZED I have tryed to improve my chess

game.  i have been tgied down with the  openings   toying with the scotch game,

colle and now stonewal as  white,  as black i have been using caro if it was a e4 opening and the  slav idf a d4 opening,  i also tryed  the  nimzo and bogo indian.

 

as you can see i am all over and my game isn't improving that much as i am still about a 1200 player on this site.

 

i am interested in joing this group to  learn a little more about the stonewall attack

I ALSO  TRY THE DUTCH STONEWALL DEFENSE AS  BLACK

 

PLEASE GIVE ME SOME DIRECTION

 

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                                                                       thanks  tony solis

antne003

kalle,  master  andrew  soltis  has a  book out called the stonewall attack

 

however it is  quite expensive,  i'd  recommend an easier reading book first

(how to  think ahead in chess, by fred reinfield and a.i. horowitz

the  explain  verywell three different  phases of the stonewall attack and the purposes for each move.

read this first and then ifyou want to go further, try soltis' book

 

my chess club host flortunate for me lentg me a copy he had, but also recommende reading  horowitz book first

 

ive been successful going to the  county library and requesting a inter library loan.

it costs nothing and they  search for the book

 

         hope this helps     tony  solis  antne003

gringubbe

The Stonewall book by Soltis is out of print and used copies cost a fortune.

stringerbill

I am starting to play a dutch stonewall as white 1.f4

britesorb

Curious to what know what line people take when your opponent opens against you with the Dutch? I personally like d4, f5, g4, fxg4', h3 line. Krejcik attack. Can bring a very quick win against unprepared opponents (most).

stringerbill

I play the french so when I see d4 I play e6 first, it helps me avoid such attacks

ConstantReminder

@britesorb, that approach reminds me of a gambit I developed I call the Hero's Gambit (1.d4 d5 2.g3 e5 3.f4 Bh3 4.Bxh3 exf4 5.e4), based on the opening lines of the Paris Gambit, but my approach is the extreme of gambits and against a well played player would never work, but catches people of guard. The Krejcik Gambit, in my opinion, does allow for piece activity, albieit sometimes leaving weaknesses and holes around the king. Those brave can certainly make great strides with a gambit such as this.

Sweepxthexleg

If anyone wants a copy of the stonewall attack in pdf form send me a message .Ive been wanting to buy a copy but on amazon its like 50 dollars idk why. i buy old out of print chess book all the time for 01. cent to 5 dollars I have soltis other book on the colle torre and stonewall I won many games because of this book. Theres really no other books on this opening.