Discussion of the rules

These days I researched on the systems by which to play tournaments and how to determine the winners, ie. those who have the same number of points .. so I decided to drive out here the skeleton of our league. Give your suggestions and comments, so that in the next few days discussing it and finally adopt a formal system of league.

First - the system that we will play in the league is a single round-robin in one or two groups depending on the number of teams. The first place in the group or the first two places in the group will play the semifinals and / or finals. This we know precisely when we determine the number of teams in the league this year. Each team will be officially assigned a number under which it will participate in schedule. If teams are divided into groups will be shared by the strongest going into group A, following the strength of the group B, third place in Group A and so on. We need only agree on what we will see the strength of the team .. the number of members or the average strength of the team that writes on the site

Second - on the scoring system. As might happen that some teams do not respond to the challenge, that would include the ability to be punished with zero points, because we do not want anyone to spend our time and our players do not respect it. So my suggestion is Kashdan system

4 points wins
2 points draw
1 point lost
0 points who does not accept the challenge the team from the league

As for the teams in the group equal to the number of points that would apply the system to go on a team that has more wins, and if it is equal, then I counted the number of individual points that have won the players for the team playing in the league, and if it is equal, then the one that has more wins with black pieces.

So the order of the system for elimination would be
1) Who has more team victories
2) Who has more individual victories
3) Who has more individual victories with black pieces

Penalty of 5 points for each day of delay lock team, that if you allow 24 hours from the end of the day which was supposed to officially begin round. After 3 days the team loses the match with O - zero.


Third on the number of teams, players, dates and days for making the move.

League should be played out on an annual basis, ie. to finish within about 360 days. If we take the average of that one game takes about 30 moves and because cities have a smaller number of players, we can animate them to play two days per move. Take the average and there will be one and a half day per player for the move, it leads to calculations that one game will last approximately 45 days. So that we had to play two parties simultaneously with the same player from the team (with black and white figures) to one round completed in about 45 days. If one year of 360 days divided by the 45 days per round, we come to the end that the league had to finish in 8 rounds. Depending on the number of registered teams we will probably have to play in groups, and the first or the first two of the leading group to play the quarter-finals and finals.

I think for the members is too much to ask them to play one day per move, though it would also be better, but ...

I am for it to not allow players from outside the city groups that play to play matches in the league. Only those who live or were born in that city. This is difficult to investigate and controlled by us who are not in that group, and this will be the responsibility of administrators to be fair and sports-minded, and that these players refuse to play our league matches. Administrators of both groups were required before the match to present objections to each other and super league administrator, if any, because if you lock the teams, it will be deemed as consent to the squad and further complaints about the players will not be accepted. Objections may be related to a player who obviously has nothing to do with the city, changing the players on the team, delaying the lock team.

In the event that a player during league play to be expelled from the site for cheating, all of its matches will be declared lost, but his team will not be further penalized.

As for the date of playing round, I thought the round starting at intervals of 45 days (probably the duration of a match) the date of the official launch of the first round, which will further agree

And thinking about the idea to declare league director for this year, so would be with me another person due to faster response in cases of complaints or any problems.

Obligations of the administrator would be to consider the beginning rounds, accepting or sending a team to challenge anyone to play that game, locking the teams, dealing with players on his team's league match, which has amounted to complaints and his team at the end of each match, send the result of the match with a link to SuperAdministrator and league director.

After completion of one round of matches in the forum in main group will be appointed the official results and standings.

It would be generally about the league ... I expect your ideas, complaints and opinions .. so that after constructive discussions we determine in detail the rules and start to league play.

So be active :-)

And a condition for entering the league is at least 10 members in the group

Ideally, the strength of a team should be calculated by admins based on average ratings of all players. However, this is a lot of work.

Therefore, the strength of a team can be calculated based on average ratings of 20 top players in the group.

Each admin can assist his counterpart by simply checking the profile of opposite players, spotting those players outside of the city and informing the counterpart of the omission.

One day per move may be a burden for players who play other matches for other teams or are involved in another tournament and 3 days is too long. Therefore, 2 days seem realistic.

As for the cheating,director and round intervals - all good.

Point system is also good. However, perhaps three teams from each group could go into another 2 groups, to make things more interesting. BUT, this round must be played on 1 day-per- move basis.

Finally, the winners of those 2 groups would play finals.

Now, it is open to discussion if this format would take too much time.

My suggestions are:

3 points wins
1 points draw
0 point lost
-1 points who does not accept the 1st time the challenge the team from the league (-2 points for each of the next times of no acceptation.)

Penalty of 1 points for each day of delay lock team (starting within 48h some of us travel a lot). After 4 days the team loses the match with O - zero.

It is impossible to control and to discuss in an endless way the complaints for who belongs to a team and who doesn't.

For the first tournament the strength of a team can be calculated based on average ratings of 20 top players in the group. After that on the points collected.

2 days per move with 10 days vacation possibility or 3 days per move without vacation.

The 1st tournament can start on March 1st, what do you think?

Rules seem fine in general although I haven't digested them in full detail.

We should start as soon as we can.

Well, the rules seem to be set, although I like - 1 and - 2 points deduction system.

So, we discuss and then agree on points system and begin soon.

All sounds sensible to me but it should be made clear that any player can only play for one team...

Ljubo,
System that would have liked, it is difficult to fit. The only thing that we have more groups, so the fewer rounds to play .. but this is not the right solution, because it would be leading in the fourth group, for example, could be a weak team, and perhaps would be the first in its group, and the strong teams from the first or other groups may have fallen, and certainly stronger than that team.

Anastasakis,
I am opposed to a lost team are assigned 0 points, just because we need to respect their effort and participation in the league. Somehow zero points sounds a bit harsh :-)

Also I'm not for it to wait 48 hours in order to punish a team if not locked in time. Each of us can add another admin in our group, so if you're on the road, he will lock the squad in time.

Start date for a league that you said, I absolutely agree.

As for the day to move and vacation ... we do not have tools with which we can control how much player goes on vacation. This can be done on site only when there is a tournament over the site. It is certain that our recommendations to the members, is to be used as little vacation they can and wetry to finish the league for 360 days.

John,

on what exactly do you think? It is certain that one player will not be able to play for two different teams in the league, but it will be sometimes difficult to find out if a player born in the that town. He can always lie us  that he was born there, and now lives in another state or something like that. I wish that we can strictly control this, but and other league on the site have similar problems with certain players. I have confidence in the honesty of teams admins  in our league.

Since we mention a date, what do you think how many days in advance to open a challenge to the players gathered ... maybe 5 or 7?

OK, two groups, first two go to semis, that part is OK.

But, I still like -1 for refusing to play.

If we agree..It's OK with me

While running the British City League, there was an instance of one player playing for 2 teams (he played for where he was born & where he was living) & it needed addressing...

Hello everyone, here I am!
 
   A few of my suggestions for the competition.

  A) We are called Cities League, the competition will be done in two groups, the League system and not the tournament. To start a group determined by the number of points each team.

   B) League play for 3 days. At 2 days can be a problem with the weekend. The next round can begin in 2-3 weeks. So it was all over in one year.

   C) A player can get into the team and from nearby small towns.
  
   D) Time of the challenges to starting a match is 10-15 days.

         Let everyone be a pleasure to play in this competition

 I do not agree with that.

What if l do not live or been born in any of the cities of the tournament?

What if l do live or been born in a city of the tournament but for any reasons (lets say I do not like the admins) I do not want to be a member of that Team city but to an other, even it is not from my country?

Lets say I have a big fight with the admins of Team Thessaloniki (MAKEDONIA) and I want to play for the team of Beograd. You wont let me?

Belgrade is one of the few city group (if not only) has no members outside of Belgrade (born in or currently live). So for Belgrade you could not play

This is a league of cities ... the city against city and the idea is to be citizens of the city or really closer places to the city

You must also think the population of any city.

Galatsades has, how many citizens? Lets say 5000. Is it fair to play against Paris with almost 12000000 citizens without outside help? All the citizens of Greece are hardly 11000000!!!

So that's the thing. Who is stronger city. Well, it is normal for cities with 5000 population will be difficult or impossible to handle a million cities. There is no one to be angry. The city is stronger and that's it.

A player can not play for two teams during the Cities Tournament but he can belong to several teams and play other games. Me for exemple, I lived more years in Paris than in Athens, I will choose Athens for WCL Tournament (sorry Paris I will help in other games lol)

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The number of players for each match is open or we have to set a min and a max? ex. 5-30 ?