Do the admins have a plan?

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What 4pc variants? I only see chaturaji queues and the war for throne queue here and there. I don't see any of existing 50 variants being played at all. So we can exclude that from players' activity and still have the same number. 4pc variants are a ghost town, the queues never fill up.

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ChessMasterGS wrote:
daveborn wrote:

There were 9000 players before this mess someone said. How many are there now??

Definitely less; but are we gonna combine all time controls and look at 4P Variants or ignore that those are separate?

And besides, I would genuinely like to know how Radon, without being an admin, knows this “9000” number. Adding to my above line, does this number include inactive players? What counts as a “player”?

Luke confirmed the 50% drop

https://clips.twitch.tv/DirtyFairDogeNotATK-YLvkTrSZh_tkRJyD

Active Rapid FFA Players 5306

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It's not about the domain name, YouTube. The conception is most certainly their owning. I do not mean the board of course which is in public domain; but the points calculations system, etc. So it's not that easy.

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I'm afraid you're right.

So we simply need either a sponsor able to give let's say 200K€ per month happy.png or make players pay 10€/mo. what most would certainly refuse.

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Indipendenza wrote:

I'm afraid you're right.

So we simply need either a sponsor able to give let's say 200K€ per month  or make players pay 10€/mo. what most would certainly refuse.

 

If we had to pay money to play 4pc the whole game would collapse or everyone would straight up leave the game. 

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Do not say "everyone" and do not judge others as if they were similar to you. I would easily pay 100€/month if we had a website structure that makes sense (with no 2p BS and 1001 separate rooms), an active community, perfect servers and friendly atmosphere. 

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Indipendenza wrote:

Do not say "everyone" and do not judge others as if they were similar to you. I would easily pay 100€/month if we had a website structure that makes sense (with no 2p BS and 1001 separate rooms), an active community, perfect servers and friendly atmosphere. 

 

You're speaking for yourself when you say that, not every single 4pc player has that type of money to spend. 

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But then again, I'm the stupid person to you guys? So my takes don't matter, right? 

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That's precisely why I wrote "what most would certainly refuse"... Read carefully.

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Indipendenza wrote:

That's precisely why I wrote "what most would certainly refuse"... Read carefully.

 

Then my point earlier was valid.

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liquid-sun wrote:

Let's be real. It's not JUST 4PC administrative decisions. Let's remember that Chess dot com never *really* cared about the 4PC community. In the first world championship, they tried to hand off announcing to popular streamers who knew almost nothing about 4PC theory.  It was a complete insult to the 4PC society. Although streamers changed soon after, the message was sent. And this message has only been emboldened by this variants merger. To chess dot com, 4PC players are nothing more than extra profits. They do not care at all about developing or supporting 4PC (much less than the current admins do, by my estimation). Maybe it really is just time to leave.

I think that those announcers probably brought a larger audience. Plus they complimented the players skill often. I didn't think it was bad.

I agree chess.com probably doesn't care about 4pc, it is too small. Its bizarre to me that the 4pc admins seem to care even less though.

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The whole server restarted while I was in a game and now I can't even see who won or anything. 

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I swear, they really need to remove 4pc from Variants.... 

 

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Sairentogeiza wrote:

I swear, they really need to remove 4pc from Variants.... 

and how would they do that?

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Moving BACK to the previous server and separate system...

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Indipendenza wrote:

Moving BACK to the previous server and separate system...

 

Exactly.

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Indipendenza wrote:

Moving BACK to the previous server and separate system...

It's quite simple really. 

It would fix the disconnects, the starting position, keep Solo separate, and bring back FFA. 

In no time we'll have 9000+ active players again, instead of 5076. 

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What about the ratings?

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ChessMasterGS wrote:

What about the ratings?

Just Import the current ratings into the database.  

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LosChessquire wrote:
ChessMasterGS wrote:

What about the ratings?

Just Import the current ratings into the database.  

 

Simple as that.