ENGINE CHEATING IS ALLOWED

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Jaap-Amesz

Haha, just to annoy all those people who write in their profile they will report prog players.

Well I don't. This group is about debating chess improvement methods, it's not about justice. Haven't we all did some stupid things in the past?

I like engine cheaters, at least they are experimenting trying to outsmart the system.

Unfortunately, I am to bad a crook to find a way to cheat OTB, since then I would make a lot of money. I would like to get to FM at my own power only using the engine afterward analysing mistakes.

Jaap-Amesz

I am 2252 at the moment. So I have enough human power to beat a GM say 2 pawns up. I could also find human moves a computer would not play without losing. But if an engine could help me out in open tactical positions, then I would win huge money at tourney's.

But how? I don't know.........

KaG_Moon

Actually, I like lichess.org, because there are hardly any cheaters. The punishment for cheating is: you get a red warning lable (banner) on your profile, telling "this player uses chess engine when playing".

The cheater isnt banned, but he gets stripped of all ratings, and can only play casual (unrated) games. 

The cheated victims, however, get all their lost ratings back. If he cheated against 20 players (and won against them) before he got caught - all 20 players get their rating back. 

I reported a cheater, and I got a message back which said: thank you for telling. The player you reported was indeed cheating.

--> that feels good. Otherwise you hardly get any response for reporting cheaters. 

And as a result - there are hardly any cheaters at lichess.org

Jaap-Amesz

It's a bit of personal goals I guess. I do not get joy out of winning online. I also am not getting joy out of my club or national rating. I only care about Fide rating. 

Jaap-Amesz

Only againt me Jaap is engine cheating allowed. wink.png

Jaap-Amesz

Can't believe how much stronger and faster Stockfish 8 is compared to 7. I was checking some tactical variations this week and switched over to 8, then I saw that 8 actually found improvements. But what struck me most was the speed.