Fairplay violation but I still officially lost the game? - Chess Forums - Page 2

Oct 19, 2022

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#21

Yeah sandbagging of ratings has been around since I was a teenager in the 70s. People sinking otb rating on purpose so they could win ten bucks in a Sunday quad LOL. To be fair ten bucks was worth a lot more back then ...

RejectdMegamanVillain1337

Oct 19, 2022

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#22

Martin_Stahl wrote:

RejectdMegamanVillain1337 wrote:

Same thing happened in the event I played in -- maybe this is the same one you're talking about? The U1450 3|2 blitz event from a couple of weeks ago, the "winner" got banned for FPV and the game I played against them in the event was reversed, yet the results went through and are reflected in the USCF results anyway. Chess.com did the ban/reversal 13 days ago, results went to USCF 6 days ago.

Those games were not part of the fair play closure.

ah ok, so does Chess.com basically just reverse all of the games from an account that was closed for FPV even if the other games didn't necessarily (directly) result in the closure?

Martin_Stahl

Oct 21, 2022

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#23

The_Vorpal_Blade wrote:

.... start new accounts with a low rating so they could win the U1450 tournament and stuff like that.... All of which is pretty sad in my opinion, but it's just part of it.

This isn't going to be common. We limit account cycling and while we occasionally have people close accounts and then request access later with a new account, it's pretty rare.

Martin_Stahl

Oct 21, 2022

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#24

RejectdMegamanVillain1337 wrote:

Martin_Stahl wrote:

RejectdMegamanVillain1337 wrote:

Same thing happened in the event I played in -- maybe this is the same one you're talking about? The U1450 3|2 blitz event from a couple of weeks ago, the "winner" got banned for FPV and the game I played against them in the event was reversed, yet the results went through and are reflected in the USCF results anyway. Chess.com did the ban/reversal 13 days ago, results went to USCF 6 days ago.

Those games were not part of the fair play closure.

ah ok, so does Chess.com basically just reverse all of the games from an account that was closed for FPV even if the other games didn't necessarily (directly) result in the closure?

In general, points are refunded base on the pools fair play violations occurred in, up to some time limits.

For US Chess games on accounts are closed, the only ones that get modified are those where it is determined those games had cheating.

HansSchmendrick

Oct 23, 2022

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#25

I don’t understand the purpose of sandbagging games. One deliberately throws games to get a lower rating in order to win a U 1400 tournament and get an internet gold medal? What honor is there in that? The object is to get your rating as high a possible, come what may.

The_Vorpal_Blade

Oct 23, 2022

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#26

@HansSchmendrick They do it in order to increase (or at least protect) their USCF rating, and not be forced to play significantly higher rated players in USCF rated tournaments. I've heard many people complain about being 1500 or 1600 and being forced to play in the Open Section of a tournament here on Chess.com. So to avoid this, they just drive down their Chess.com rating, so they can play in the U1450 Section of the Tournaments. Of course there is no honor in it, but there's no honor in winning when cheating, but as we know that doesn't stop people from doing it.