FFA rating calculation

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bnjboyd

What if 2nd place gets 0 rating change. Doesn't lose anything but also doesn't gain anything. 1st is the only way to increase your rating but at least 2nd doesn't lose points.

Has this been suggested already? I haven't seen it. Maybe a nice hybrid between Solo and old FFA?

I don't care what the rating change system is very much as long as there are enough players so I don't have to wait too long to get into a good game.

Shannon_Khan

oh great

2718a

good idea:

First: 3 wins

Second: 0

Third: 1 loss

Fourth: 2 losses

Something like that maybe

spacebar

if 2nd > 3rd, FFA=Teams from start to end. (we've already been there. And yes it's only true for high rated games).

if 2nd = 3rd, then at least the FFA=Teams stops after the first player is out.

The question is what could we do to stop FFA=Teams in the 4 player stage?
I think 3 -1 -1 -1 will help at least a bit.

 

Chestnut924

Why stop ffa equaling teams in the 4 player stage? That, to me, is the funnest part of the whole game.

Darksquareman
spacebar wrote:

if 2nd > 3rd, FFA=Teams from start to end. (we've already been there. And yes it's only true for high rated games).

if 2nd = 3rd, then at least the FFA=Teams stops after the first player is out.

The question is what could we do to stop FFA=Teams in the 4 player stage?
I think 3 -1 -1 -1 will help at least a bit.

 

Who said we needed to stop teaming in FFA the 1900s-2000s ?

spacebar

We will be discussing the rating formula with new admins who are about to join.

One idea (just an idea) for an improvement:
It's very 'risky' for high rated to join games with lower rated players, because if you don't win, you will lose quite a lot or rating. And the higher rated amongst the 3 losers takes almost the entire 'hit', while the lower rated have near nothing to lose. but all 3 are 'responsible' for 'letting someone get 1st'.

I think it would be better, if, in this example, 2nd would lose say -6, 3rd -3 and 4th -2

empty_K3

I made a Poll on which FFA rating System is the best.

What do you think?

 

spacebar

The poll should not include std FFA, and make it clear that this is only for top level games. So really only votes of top level players should count..

empty_K3

Well, It's not an official poll that will change anything it's just to see what people like.

And the FFA +3 +1 -1 -3 appears to be the most liked, but we know that this rating system has its problems in high elo.

I am really pleased to see, that the Empty calculation +4 0 -1 -3 also has a bunch of supporters.

If chess.com wants to keep the different elo calculation for low and high elo the shift from classic FFA to Empty would be very soft because the elo that 2nd place wins just slowly shifts to 1st place.