Hello, why have Team Peru been removed from the daily games?

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Hello, why have Team Peu been removed from the daily games?

We are a team that works hard to improve, we have remained in an acceptable position last season, nobody informed us of Ilmago's decision to withdraw from the league, we want to participate. We await his response and we hope it is a misunderstanding.

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Probably Richard (remontesinos) must have asked to withdraw from Team Peru.
As his account was closed, the topics he created were deleted by Chess.com support, so it may not be possible to retrieve the message if he has done something.

https://www.chess.com/member/rloetepinos

Above I have an example of a topic he created at LCWL, I can see the topic in the audit log, but it is not possible to access the content.

 

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dkrummenauer escribió:

Probably Richard (remontesinos) must have asked to withdraw from Team Peru.
As his account was closed, the topics he created were deleted by Chess.com support, so it may not be possible to retrieve the message if he has done something.

https://www.chess.com/member/rloetepinos

Above I have an example of a topic he created at LCWL, I can see the topic in the audit log, but it is not possible to access the content.

 

Hello Diego, nice to read your comment, however we have not requested the withdrawal of Team Peru, much less Richard who was bothering him was @ilmago, this badly influenced administrator thought that we wanted a team of 300 members to discriminate players, which was totally demonstrated that it was false, since we played with low-elo players the different matches, including the last match played in the LCPAL, players with ELOs of 400, 700 and 800 played which demonstrates the correct and free creation of a group with another purpose that was to teach players the game of chess, you know the reasons, I don't think @ilmago won't comment on you? Or do not comment to your directors, neither an arbitrary decision can harm a team of more than 3000 players which participates daily for several years, playing a fair game although we did not achieve the first places we have fulfilled until the last match and messages were always received from @ilmago informing about the rounds and we accepted the matches, if we had not wanted to play, we would not have accepted the matches. Now because @ilmago separates us at the last moment he must have a livelihood, he cannot freely withdraw equipment, he represents us as a leader and must put aside his personal tastes and also stop being influenced by other people. I await the comments of @ilmago I still appreciate your comments but they are out of all reality although I am sure you know the reason.

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It was indeed about remontesinos.

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That did not happen, you mentioned that if we did not eliminate the team that was believed to be withdrawing us from the league, it was never the intention of the Remontesinos to withdraw a team, if it had been so, we would not have participated in all the matches, we complied with all of them I spoke yesterday with ski lift and tells me that I never request the retirement of Team Peru. If you like, I say to ski lift go in and tell you that I never request that, I think it was a misunderstanding, I spoke with him yesterday.

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Did Peru explicitly request to leave, or was it a decision made by @ilmago?

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So be honest and tell the truth, you wanted us to eliminate a team, and you threatened us that you would withdraw us from the league if we did not eliminate the team, it is more compared to the case with that of the Argentine team, you must tell the truth, you will withdraw us from the league without a logical reason simply for a whim that we eliminate a group created in order to teach new values ​​to a group of 300 members who are still in TEAM Peru playing without restrictions and that was explained to you several times, but you he had already made a decision to withdraw the Peruvian team. If you as the director of this league make these childish decisions, it is a shame for a league where there are teams and very serious and committed people, TEAM Peru complied with the league until the last moment and I never request that they be withdrawn, that is totally false.

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ThomasJEvans escribió:

Did Peru explicitly request to leave, or was it a decision made by @ilmago?

It was a decision by Ilmago Team Peru. I never asked to withdraw, and I spoke with ski lifters, what's more, he even agrees to enter the forum to tell the details. You cannot deprive a team of playing a league on a whim.

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I request on behalf of all TEAM Peru that the Peruvian team be considered in the participation in this year awaiting a response from the league administrator.

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So because you say that we mentioned that we would not play I think you should always be sincere and say things clearly, my question is what is your argument so that a team or people cannot create another group with a totally different name? And above all that the Peruvian team can show that the same low-elo players are on both teams, we have evidence that even low-elo players played the various games of the daily world league, live, and the Pan-American league. What is your argument for you to be able to prohibit the creation of a group that has nothing to do with TEAM Peru, explain us?

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Hi @ilmago?

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I did not know that Team Peru had a B team and the questions I ask, I understand that they correspond to another debate away from the subject under discussion here and it is not my intention to argue. I do not have a formed opinion about it. But I ask: Is it necessary to create a second team to train new Daily Chess players? I understand that the point is to decrease the TOs (Time overs). The spirit of the World League, in addition to sports competition, is to generate a meeting space between two different cultures (produced by the clash of two nations) through chess. Perhaps the generation of second teams goes against the spirit of the World League. Who guarantees that the filter of that team B is not discriminatory? Why should a new player go through a B team to understand the mechanics of the World League? Are those players who commit TOs in team B promoted to the starting team? Or let them die on team B? Is it fair to deprive that player from competing in the World League if he has less than 25% TOs in the last 90 days?

Please. Do not feel that I am against Peru. Quite the opposite. It hurts me a lot to see how great teams like Peru and Argentina are left out of the World League due to situations that may have similarities. That is why I ask myself these questions.

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Yes, germagno, in the World League it is not needed at all to have a team B. When we ask a team to please not have a team B, and they refuse, this is usually a bad sign.

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germagno escribió:

I did not know that Team Peru had a B team and the questions I ask, I understand that they correspond to another debate away from the subject under discussion here and it is not my intention to argue. I do not have a formed opinion about it. But I ask: Is it necessary to create a second team to train new Daily Chess players? I understand that the point is to decrease the TOs (Time overs). The spirit of the World League, in addition to sports competition, is to generate a meeting space between two different cultures (produced by the clash of two nations) through chess. Perhaps the generation of second teams goes against the spirit of the World League. Who guarantees that the filter of that team B is not discriminatory? Why should a new player go through a B team to understand the mechanics of the World League? Are those players who commit TOs in team B promoted to the starting team? Or let them die on team B? Is it fair to deprive that player from competing in the World League if he has less than 25% TOs in the last 90 days?

Please. Do not feel that I am against Peru. Quite the opposite. It hurts me a lot to see how great teams like Peru and Argentina are left out of the World League due to situations that may have similarities. That is why I ask myself these questions.

Una decepción de un país hermano que hemos ayudado a formar, que pena que des tu argumento sin consultar tienes el WhatsApp del administrador para consultar también mencionaste al administrador peruano que tuviste problemas con el administrador de tu país, no tenemos un equipo B como otros países si lo tienen, es un grupo de apenas 300 miembros que tiene otro nombre, una gran decepción de un equipo que se ayudó a formar.

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ilmago escribió:

Yes, germagno, in the World League it is not needed at all to have a team B. When we ask a team to please not have a team B, and they refuse, this is usuallyhttps://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/hello-why-have-team-peru-been-removed-from-the-daily-games?page=1&newCommentCount=1#comment-56293794

You are used to doing what you want with this league, even lying to go out with your pleasure, I remember that you did the same with a brother country I wait until the last to take away the title and that was made known to Remontesinos and he mentioned it with a great pride in what he had done to remove the title from a country that deserved that title we may have differences but things are fair. The group was never created to participate and for a sample we have played games with low-elo players as shown in the image, we do not restrict players and it is a shame that he lies at the beginning saying that Remontesinos told you for TEAM PERU to come out and then I have just told the truth that I am withdrawing TEAM PERU for their whim to do what you want in this league.

 

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ilmago escribió:

Yes, germagno, in the World League it is not needed at all to have a team B. When we ask a team to please not have a team B, and they refuse, this is usually a bad sign.

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You are used to doing what you want with this league, even lying to go out with your pleasure, I remember that you did the same with a brother country I wait until the last to take away the title and that was made known to Remontesinos and he mentioned it with a great pride in what he had done to remove the title from a country that deserved that title we may have differences but things are fair. The group was never created to participate and for a sample we have played games with low-elo players as shown in the image, we do not restrict players and it is a shame that he lies at the beginning saying that Remontesinos told you for TEAM PERU to come out and then I have just told the truth that I am withdrawing TEAM PERU for their whim to do what you want in this league.

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Are we seriously having this discussion again? Over a Team B?

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Hello everyone, I have seen that the schedule of the games has already been made, which makes me sadly think that there is no plan to change this, team Perú was just growing in daily chess and in fact this is a hard blow, and more for a group that I think was formed for other modalities that was not daily chess and I believe that without the intention of discriminating players, I hope that the decisions that have been made have been agreed with the rest of the administrators and not taken lightly, Greetings to all and apologies perhaps for my bad English.