Hello, why have Team Peru been removed from the daily games?

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@ilmago....come on and tell us your opinion please....

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????

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where is ilmago ???? peru had not a team B but is disqualified...maybe wrong decision which CAN be changed.....or all other teams refuse to play, then you have nothing

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It would be good if we join together on January 17, we will carry out a streaming via Twitch with a Peruvian GM explaining all this, I will publish the link shortly or I will send you internally. There is no evidence or support for a B team, it is a group of only 300 players who do not represent Peru, it has already been explained to him but he does not want to understand, he closes in his position.

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We want the evidence that a group of 300 players was used to filter players, we want a single test that proves their grand theory.

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fact is, it is not only him...it is a board of a group of people, and it looks like that majority is against Peru, but there is no real reason to be againts Peru

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We have played all the tournaments with low-rated players and I command the livelihood.

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Instead they are based on illogical impositions on freedom.

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Tony post a daily match link, you are posting a live match link.

https://www.chess.com/club/matches/live/team-peru/473003/games

You do not have a daily match with 145 players, a maximum of 66 players, the match you posted is part of the Rapid 10 | 2 final, it is not a match of 3 days per move.
On the other hand, as Team Peru is made up of both players who play WL and Pan (daily) as well as LCWL and LCPAL (live), it is impossible for them to filter players, the World League board is totally wrong in this punishment.

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If the punishment is totally wrong, because we only have one team in the two live world leagues, daily, and Pan American, we don't have another registered team, that's what I'm explaining to @ilmago but he doesn't understand. Thank Diego 🤝

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I was reviewing daily games and we have low-elo players playing, we have been 6th in this group but with honor, they have participated without discriminating players, all of them.

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If we are only a single registered team, it is logical that we have low-elo players in all categories, very good logic, I think everything is clearer now.

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A @ilmago le hemos dicho y él sabe porque él mismo informó que como ya la gran mayoría de los líderes dejaron la administración y se retiraron de ese grupo de enseñanza, él piensa que nos retiramos para no poder eliminar el grupo, extraño pensamiento, se le dijo que en el futuro no crearemos un grupo que él sospeche a pesar que está claro que apenas hay 300 miembros desde su creación, que jamás se utilizó para un filtro lo cual hemos demostrado, da vueltas en su mismo sitio y su orgullo de no aceptar algo que él sabe dice lo siguiente, lo posteo porque no comprendo sus respuestas ya le hemos dicho que seguiremos cooperando.

@ilmago

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Respuesta de Ilmago:

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It seem that there is one huge insurmountable problem:

 

In the World League, cooperation and communication is much more important than you can imagine.

This need not be your fault, you have never been inside the WLHQ group to see how the World League is opearting on admin level.

 

The World League uses team matches of Daily Chess on chess.com.

These matches have many in-built disadvantages, making it difficult to have a nice and interesting competition with them.

For more than 10 years, the admins of the World League teams and the World League directors have been cooperating to minimize these disadvantages as well as it has been possible.

Many aspects are dealt with with World League rules here and there. But many aspects are dealt with by everyone finding a way to do things together, and by trusting directors to do things in the interest of the league.

 

What you are talking about was not an arbitrary action of one individual director. It was a decision taken by all directors after a discussion among them. We also had a discussion in the WLHQ group forums about just this kind of topic, among the team admins of the World League.

 

The World League is different from other leagues. It has much more cooperation and communication, and it required much more cooperation and communication than other leagues. Many teams have been liking to play in the World League like this. It is extremely rare that a team leaves because its admins are unable or unwilling to be a part of this cooperation.

 

There are many different leagues on chess.com. I think that many of them do not care at all about some things that are necessary in the World League.

* Nosotros sabemos que el no va a ceder ni retroceder espero que a otro TEAM no le suceda mientras el y el resto estén de directores todo será muy difícil, no hay ningún fundamento quiere que eliminemos un grupo donde hace mucho tiempo los líderes principales de TEAM PERU se retiraron entonces si el mismo me lo dijo y él piensa que nos retiramos para no eliminar el grupo porque pide que eliminemos algo que no podemos eliminar y peor aún algo que no tiene lógica entiendo que este administrador es un problema que todos debemos solucionar, mientras estén estos directores todos será muy difícil, bueno disculpen los que me han apoyado por interno les agradezco y los que se han manifestado por este medio también, en unos días tendremos una debate por GM que hable inglés a la perfección porque eso también nos pide @ilmago haremos un enlace por Twitch y se posteara en la plataforma de Chess.com para tratar de entender este tema ya invite a Ilmago para que explique a muchos peruanos sus ideales, y también a todos los latinos ya que cada ves hay menos equipos latinos ya que veo que @ilmago es muy bueno para desaparecer equipos latinos. Gracias.

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Esto me responde @ilmago entienden ustedes algo?

Si no hay falta entonces porque descalifican no tiene argumentos.

You seem to wish that the World League is simple.

This is a misunderstanding.

Organizing the World League is complicated, and it has always been complicated.

 

The current team of directors has the advantage of having many years of experience running the World League.

And it has the disadvantage that sometimes all this experience sometimes creates the impression that things are running so smoothely that it seems simple to organize the World League.

But in fact, the World League has always been complicated to organize. It has always required a considerable amount of help and cooperation and understanding from the admins of the participating teams. Many teams think this has been worth the effort, and they think it is interesting to play in the World League.

 

If you want a simple league instead of a complicated league, you can definitely go look and find one. They may have less requirements than the World League, or different requirements  - ilmago

 

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El no entiende que gracias a los países tienen una liga nosotros felicitamos su esfuerzo, pero recuerdo que se le dijo también que si nos van a retirar no nos programen las otras fechas y esto se lo mencionamos hace mucho tiempo, luego de explicar todo a @ilmago y al otro administrador, sin embargo nos siguieron programando y nosotros cumplimos participando aceptando los retos, el goza quitando títulos, retirando equipos, siendo conflictivo, espero todo esto cambie por una mejor liga. Disfruten de los match estimados líderes de países justos, cuídense, TEAM PERU seguirá jugando lo que nos gusta el ajedrez. Se actualizará con el link del debate.

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still not solved the problem.........ilmago should have posted the reason after talking to his colleagues. Can not really understand it...Like Argentina last year

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Yet again little or no communication from the Directors

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germagno escribió:

I did not know that Team Peru had a B team and the questions I ask, I understand that they correspond to another debate away from the subject under discussion here and it is not my intention to argue. I do not have a formed opinion about it. But I ask: Is it necessary to create a second team to train new Daily Chess players? I understand that the point is to decrease the TOs (Time overs). The spirit of the World League, in addition to sports competition, is to generate a meeting space between two different cultures (produced by the clash of two nations) through chess. Perhaps the generation of second teams goes against the spirit of the World League. Who guarantees that the filter of that team B is not discriminatory? Why should a new player go through a B team to understand the mechanics of the World League? Are those players who commit TOs in team B promoted to the starting team? Or let them die on team B? Is it fair to deprive that player from competing in the World League if he has less than 25% TOs in the last 90 days?

Please. Do not feel that I am against Peru. Quite the opposite. It hurts me a lot to see how great teams like Peru and Argentina are left out of the World League due to situations that may have similarities. That is why I ask myself these questions.

Recien leo esto bien, estimado el otro equipo se llamaba Cantera Perú un nombre totalmente diferenta al de una nación, tu vez algo malo? Creo que siempre es mejor informarse bien.