How do we know the value of a fairy chess piece

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The value of a fairy chess piece is subjective yet objective

I don’t know how do we know how much a fairy chess piece is worth?

in my opinion the Rook, Wildebeest and General are all worth the same (5 points) but most people say the general is worth 6 points and I even saw some people saying it’s worth 6.75 (only 2.25 less than a Queen!), and someone told me the Wildebeest is worth 5.5 points (I know it’s only 0.5 point more than a Rook but I don’t know why people always underestimate the Rook infinitely long sliding moves)

I also don’t know why the Non-royal King aka Mann/guard is worth the same as a Knight, in my opinion the Non-royal King is worth 2.75 at its peak during end-games

I seriously don’t know how we know the value of fairy chess pieces, when I give a value to a fairy chess piece I always use my scale:

Knight: 3

Bishop: 3

Queen: 9

Rook: 5

Non-Royal King: 2.75

Alibaba: 2

Alfil: 1

Dabbaba: 1

Camel: 2

Wazir: 1

Ferz: 1

and many more…

the Answer is: I don’t know.

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It really boils down to what the board looks like. If the board is a regular 4x4, then Man is more valuable than Rook. Another example: in Mini Forest, Bishop and Queen wouls both be worth 5.

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2bHNST wrote:

It really boils down to what the board looks like. If the board is a regular 4x4, then Man is more valuable than Rook. Another example: in Mini Forest, Bishop and Queen wouls both be worth 5.

not only the board, the entire variant and its rules also matters

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Mann/NRK is a bit better than the Knight. Take my rating as a proof.

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what

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Wazir is more powerful than Ferz. And on a less expansive chessboard, it also seems to be better than Alfil and Dabbaba.

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LapplandTexas wrote:

Wazir is more powerful than Ferz. And on a less expansive chessboard, it also seems to be better than Alfil and Dabbaba.

True. the Ferz is colourbound, the Dabbaba is double colourbound and the Alfil is triple Colourbound

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wolyn wrote:

Mann/NRK is a bit better than the Knight. Take my rating as a proof.

How? Show me examples, I can show you examples of how the Knight is better than the Mann

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The Knight is better than the Amazon

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ChessMasterGS wrote:

The Knight is better than the Amazon

“💀” ahh opinion

but seriously: I know the knight is better than a non-royal king, but I am sane enough to also know that a Amazon is better than a Knight, a Amazon can do everything a Knight can do and everything a Queen can do

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If you guys can handle the math, a full description of how to do it for any piece on any size board is here:

https://triceschess.com/articles_01.shtml