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please realize that at the Digital Storm website they show a video that is played at 1200p. i can play it and do something else (Chess analysis!) at once. My DVD drive can't read Blu-Ray, and i don't have the will to get a blu-ray drive. A usb drive is good enough. A Blu-ray is hd only because it's data is more fine, but any video can be turned to HD.

And yes, it is an argument.

Your CPU isn't strong enough to "feed" your GPU, that's why you're complaining.

meh. it's taht my GPU isn't strong enough to eat up all the "feeds" that's why things were slow.

anyway windows7, should I  tell my sister to spend the $50 or the $100 on Windows7? 

What if the new OS was like when Vista was released? full of bugs and have to wait for months for service pack?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162029

windows7, I bought that card for $80 cheapest you can find. so, do you think its good? I know that with that card in my comp, the CPU and the RAM will now be the bottleneck. but that's fine.

it's all about the GPU haha. can't wait until it arrives so I can blast through FSX

No, first of all. This GPU, be careful, is an older model, from the release date of Vista. I think it's also better you get a dual-DVI card, as two displays is awesom

KEEP IN MIND: If you do not want to throw away your current card, you will have to get Windows 7, as Vista and XP do not support multiple display drivers, as will be required in a dual-card setup.

Windows 7 RC is almost flawless except it limits for no reason whatsoever my refresh rate to 59 hz.

And no, the link isn't broken, you just need to click the Windows link on  the top of the page.

You really should, and I suggest ordering the Professional or Ultimate editions, lot's of cool things included in these editions. Home Premium is for someone who doesn't really know how to use a computer well.

My GPU is idle always unless my main system RAM is high, since Windows Aero never lags for me, and nor does any video except those from a low bandwidth site.

GPU's vs. CPU's:

Feature/capability:|CPU|GPU

Run Windows OS    |Yes |No

Copy Files             |Yes |No

Importance           |High|low

Run a game            |Yes|No

Monitor usage        |Yes|No

Analyze chess         |Yes|No

Run Chess.com       |Yes|No

Control over other |Yes|No

Overall rating         |A+|F

of course vista and XP supports multiple displays. my sister have a laptop with vista and she always ADD an additional external monitor. she uses both the laptop built-in monitor and the external 1. u need to research.

no, I'm not planning to use more than 1 card or screen.

Home Premium is fine. the only thing in pro version is the domain access and remote desktop host. oh, and the "pro" bragging right. same with ultimate, just add some drive encryption ability. and the "ultimate" bragging right which I don't rly care for.

GPU's vs. CPU's:

Feature/capability:      |CPU|GPU

Essential for Gaming    |Yes(not that important) |Yes(highest priority)

Windows Aero             |No |Yes

High resolution (2560x1600)            |No |Yes

High-Def gaming           |No|Yes

HD movie watching       |No|Yes

Blueray, HD-DVD        |No|Yes

Hardware accelerated decoding of HD videos   |No |Yes

Transcoding video         |1X|10X

Burn a DVD       |11 hours|0.5-1 hour

Looks cool        |NO|ABSOLUTELY

High usage can decrease desktop responsiveness |YES|NO

Calculating time for images for scientific and medical purposes |3months|3days

Parallelism per processor      |4cores|960cores

Asissting each other   |NO|YES

PhysX               |NO|YES

Ease of installation/upgrade         |No|Yes

Upscaling SD videos to HD resolution     |No|Yes

Enhancements such as image sharpening  |drop frames|fluidly

Accelerates video editing and image editing   |not much|significantly

Passively cooled for low noise    |NO|YES

CAn be turned off to save energy   |No|Yes

Multiple physical processors supported(consumer level)   |2 max|up to 8!

RUN LASTEST WINDOWS RELEASE    |SLOW(with features disabled)|FAST(with all features enabled)

Overall rating         |D-|A++

You got a lot of red text this time.

No, a GPU isn't as essential as a CPU, because there's no program if there's no CPU, and you can always use another system with GPU's to log on to your own system.

Blu-Ray and HD-DVD have no relevance here, as that's determined by the disk drive.

My CPU burns my DVD in under half an hour.

Video Cards often are considered ugly while a CPU chip looks pristine and shiny.

And yes, high usage of the GPU also decreases desktop responsiveness.

CPU's have been scaled to 120,000 cores in supercomputers, match that with a  GPU.

CPU's also assist each other as well.

Windows Server 2008 R2 supports up to 256 sockets.

Windows can't even run AT ALL on a GPU alone. Windows 7 runs real quick on my own CPU.

given this your  grading is invalid, not to mention that A++ is nonexistent.

I don't care about red text. if I didn't put in on yours, then dont' put it on my list.

I know about windows server. as i said, 'consumer level' read careful next time. consumers don't use windows server. plus, consumer motherboard dont' support anymore than 2 sockets.

I said per single processor, 120,000 cores are of many processors. I'm talking about all the cores supported inside ONE physical processor. plus, we're again, talking about consumer level, not supercomputer

haha you CAN"T even see a CPU because it's covered by a heatsink. if it's not covered by one, which will make it burn to death, then all you see is the model number and technical info. nothing artistic. but there are cool illustration on the video card for everyone to enjoy.

No, the ability to play blue-ray and HD-DVD at full frame rate is determined by if you have a discrete GPU or not.

and why is 'passively cooled for low noise' in read? try cooling a core i7 without a fan. I'll look forward to see your $1k burns up.

how is 'ease of installation' in read?

lemme show u the steps for upgrading a CPU

1. open the case

2. unclip the heatsink. (and remove the power cord)

3. slowly and carefully pull the heatsink up and away from the mobo.

4. unclip the socket

5. remove the old CPU.

6. put in the new CPU.

7. clip the socket.

8. put on thermal paste.

9. center heatsink.

10. clip on heatsink.

11. plug in fan power cord.

12. close the case

steps for upgrading a GPU

1. open the case.

2. unscrew the bolt for the extension slot(s)

3. unplug the power connectors (if any)

4. remove the card.

5. put in new card.

6. plug in power connectors (if any)

7. screw on the bolt.

8. close case.

steps 3 and 6 isn't necessary if your GPU runs entirely on the power of the PCI-Express bus.

as u can see, 12 steps compare to 8 steps.

no, CPU can't 'assist' each other. in GPU we have SLi and CrossfireX. what does CPU have?

everyone knows that high CPU usage decreases desktop responsiveness. if you look in vista's system messages (which I'm SURE an expert like U know where THAT is) it even said that Desktop Windows Manager and Explorer.exe were less responsive because of "over CPU ultilization" on the other hand, if you have your GPU running at 100%, so what? your system is still very responsive. why do we have GPU? to OFFLOAD graphics work from the CPU so system is more responsive. other processors like sound card and network card do the same.

 TOTALLY WRONG, james8. My Core 2 Quad is cooled without a fan, just some conductive metal plates stacked up for air to flow through, unlike my GPU which has a loud and noisy fan. I am real mad at your lies right now, James8. Please understand that the CPU's all work together on multi-threaded software tasks, via QPI and front side busses. SLI is space-inefficient and Crossfire is pointless. You are being biased right now with the steps-I know how to change the CPU in only FIVE steps, beat that;

1.Prepare to install new CPU: Open up case and remove current heat sink, and open the CPU socket (While the power is off, and with static grounding bracelets on).

2.Remove current CPU and put in new one.

3.Apply thermal compound or pad and close CPU socket

4.Re-install heatsink

5.Close case and reboot computer.

High CPU usage decreases system response BECAUSE IT CONTROLS ALL THE THINGS IN THE COMPUTER. THE GPU DOES NOTHING UNTIL THE CPU IS READY!

AS A RESULT, FORGET GPU'S, THEY SUCK.

THE GPU REQUIRES DRIVER INSTALLATION ON TOP OF THOSE 8 STEPS, SO IT TAKES A TOTAL OF 9 STEPS TO INSTALL A NEW GPU. Compare that with the 5 steps I outlined.

100%  GPU usage will lead to the screen refusing to refresh for a long time.

haha, you know there are many GPU that are passively cooled. although I don't see any CPU passively cooled. maybe you have a heatsink on your CPU and have like 4 200mm case fans surrounding it xD samething as a fan on top of a heatsink lol.

well yes, 5 steps, you combined all that work into "prepare to install new CPU". I can do the same

1. Prepare to install GPU: open up case and remove bolt and power cable(s) (if any).

2. Remove current GPU and put in new one

3. plug in cable(s) (if any), tighten bolt

4. close case and reboot computer. install driver.

exactly, the CPU do so many things. that is why we have the GPU, audio cards, network cards, to OFFLOAD works from the CPU so system becomes more responsive. because if those other dedicated processors is at 100%, your system will still be reasonably responsive. 

nah, 100% GPU usage doesn't do that. on the other hand, 100% CPU usage FREEZES your system 

That emoticon was not appropriate, and you may recieve another round of probation for it.

Have you EVER loaded your GPU like that? it's happened with me, and Windows Aero lagged so much.

what rules said I can't use emoticons?

also, YOU changing the color of my quoted text to RED is inappropriate. you may receive a warning for doing such.

windows aero lag? that's because poor, weak mister CPU is being put to heavy work and he doesn't have enough strength to manage.

The red text is not offensive but the emoticon, this one in particular (got you in trouble last time) isn't allowed.

LEVEL 2 WARNING FOR THAT ITALICIZED TEXT, and the emoticon (you insisted on it being legal)

Windows Aero was lagging because i had a lot of virtual machines running, and the GPU and RAM usage was near 100%.

*sign*

how do u know GPU usage was 100%? I currently have not found a program to monitor GPU and video RAM usage yet.

it was just lagging, but CPU and main system RAM were doing fine (70%). it had to be the GPU or it's memory.

you can't assume that, you have to have a program to tell u

facts are to be proven, not assumed. that's how we do things scientifically.

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