Kramnik-Shirov Counterattack

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Narahari28

One of the sharpest and most annoying responses to the English is the Kramnik-Shirov Counterattack: c4, e5, nc3, bb4. How does one deal with the position?

Narahari28

Arcanus_Lupus

3. Nd5 is the most trying

Narahari28

That is what I have learned from analyzing master games recently. However, the idea was also proposed to play g3 on move 2 to avoid the attack entirely. I personally prefer just playing nd5 because of its success among expert players.

Narahari28

On a somewhat different note: What if they play a delayed Kramnik-Shirov counterattack?

Arcanus_Lupus

As I play the 2. g3 system as White, I am unsure as I've never had to face this position.  The 2. g3 variation avoids this by playing the following continuation: 1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2, then if Black still wants to play the Reversed Rossolimo, 3. ... Nc6 4. Nc3 Bb4, where we are in a good position to play 5. Nd5.

Narahari28

OK. Thank you. I think I still like playing nc3 on move 2 at this point. But I have been studying c4, nf6, nc3, e5, nf3. This position can turn into a four knights variation in which white attempts to fianchetto the light squared bishop and the doubled pawns on the c file turn out better for white or something more closed with d6.

Narahari28

This is the closed line I'm talking about, called the Old Indian. This position is obviously one of the many variations that could occur of course, but it looks fairly drawish.

Arcanus_Lupus

I guess its a matter of preferance.  Personally, I prefer the flexibility of the position over a quickly decided pawn structure, even with the Bishop Pair; either way works for sure though.

Narahari28

Yup. And who says you have to play the same line every game? Tongue Out

bg424jg
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bg424jg

Game editor baffles me. Yell



Narahari28

Wait what is wrong with your post? Black plays c4? White plays b6? And after b6 I'm not sure I like g3.

bg424jg

I'll keep experimenting & get back to you. Do you recommend any particular ".pgn" viewer for easier uploads? The FEN thing doesn't seem promising. Thanks-

bg424jg
Thanks for the tip, ccssii....
Narahari28

Did you lose on time or just resign? It looks fairly even to me (except for the bad bishop).

bg424jg

S/he disconnected and lost on time. See the "0-1" in the upper RH corner? I'll add "Comment after Move" next time. Thanks, Nara-

Narahari28

Sure. Sorry I thought you were Drogba :D

678proof

Sorry for reviving this but you never reposted. I'm not sure if you still play chess but I struggle with 1.c4 e5 2. Nc3 Bb4

I did try to change it up and play 2.g3 but what happened what 1.c4 e5 2. g3 nf6 3. nc3 Bb4 (!!) I personally find the bishop annoying and idk how to get rid of this line.

 

Some help please?

Narahari28

Hey, sorry for the 4 years late response! I barely use this account anymore but I do still play. I grew to play the English less over time but when I do play it this is still an annoying opening to face. I think 2. g3 might be the way to go if I expect my opponent to play this opening. What about you?