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chuckmoulton

Unless you have opponents that accept rematches (which is extremely rare on this site), it takes 10-20 minutes to get a match when you click "New Game".

 

Are there any chess.com admins that monitor this board?  Are there any chess.com programmers that monitor this board?  What is going on?!!!

 

Can you please just roll back the code to what you had 2 weeks ago when seeks instantaneously resulted in matches?

cwfrank
chuckmoulton wrote:

Unless you have opponents that accept rematches (which is extremely rare on this site), it takes 10-20 minutes to get a match when you click "New Game".

 

Are there any chess.com admins that monitor this board?  Are there any chess.com programmers that monitor this board?  What is going on?!!!

 

Can you please just roll back the code to what you had 2 weeks ago when seeks instantaneously resulted in matches?

 

I agree / concur ...

 

I saw @chuckmoulton's note, and, adding it to a previous thread, here's what I said ...

 

cwfrank wrote:

@chuckmoulton says ...

"It is RIDICULOUS how long it takes to get a game here. Average is 10 minutes between each game."

 

Tentatively I have to agree.

 

The recent test or "evolution" of seeing "Seeking rating match between ABC and XYZ..." (while seeking on random, or even teams seeking other teams, random or matched) ... this is not working. We need another matching tactic.

 

If the current iteration is just a stint (and/or test) ... (can we get an estimate of or about) how long until we're able to set these specific parameters in our settings? Such that, point being ... people only have complain about limitations they implement themselves.

 

In truth ... @chuckmoulton's comments (and my own observations) are meant to help refine things. But, if they're hurting more than helping, then implementation ideas (being tested) ... they need to be rolled back and another idea tried and tested.

 

Can we get communication (information) about the status of such parameters, ideas, tests, etc...

 

I don't mind being a guinea pig, but, I'd like to be in-the-know about what's going on behind the scenes (a personal statement).

 

Reference: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/bug-bug-bad-settings

 

Womby

If you're partnered with someone a match often won't happen unless you un-partner, refresh, and repartner. It's irritating. If I'm taking random partners it's usually pretty quick. 

woogiedad

before, i could get a game quickly, but now i have to wait a crazily long time even if i don't choose a specific partner!

erik

Thanks! I'm reading this. I'm going to get some info ASAP. 

The hardest part is that we are stuck in between two complaints and cannot win

One the one hand we get these complaints: "Stop pairing me with weak partners and opponents!"

And then we get "I can't get a match without waiting forever!"

The problem is that those are directly opposing. The smaller the pool of potential partners, the longer the wait for everyone. Which is why at first, we paired EVERYONE. 

Let me see if we cranked too hard the other way. I'll post what I find. 

woogiedad
erik wrote:

Thanks! I'm reading this. I'm going to get some info ASAP. 

The hardest part is that we are stuck in between two complaints and cannot win

One the one hand we get these complaints: "Stop pairing me with weak partners and opponents!"

And then we get "I can't get a match without waiting forever!"

The problem is that those are directly opposing. The smaller the pool of potential partners, the longer the wait for everyone. Which is why at first, we paired EVERYONE. 

Let me see if we cranked too hard the other way. I'll post what I find. 

thank you so, so much wink.pngplayhand.png

chuckmoulton

Thanks, Erik!  Great to see someone is actually reading this.

 

My suggestion is a default to random pairings.  People could change that default by optionally pick partners if they want.  People could also change that default by specifying narrower range than +0 to +16 for wins (for example, only play games between +1 and +14) -- because this would be an option it would not limit the pool unless people explicitly choose it, and they could always unselect it if they found games were not forthcoming.

erik

The only thing we can do is make it acceptable for you to play with lower rated players. My temporary solution is to have it be either +/-400, but with a minimum of 1400. So, for some people that are 2100 that is 700 points below, but better than not getting paired, right? 

I just don't want to make this change and then have people saying "Hey! I'm tired of getting paired with lower rated players!"

woogiedad

i have started a seek about 4 minutes ago i will say when i get  an opponent 

chuckmoulton

Dropping it down to 1400 is better than it was the past 2 weeks, but still not as good at it was before the +-400.  The real solution is to make it optional and opt-in -- just like with chess and every other variant on chess.com.

 

There is already a setting for specifying rating ranges for outgoing and incoming seeks.  Use it.  Then add a third rating range for partners and use that too.  Make it off by default, on when people explicitly set it.  Anyone who feels it is taking too long to get a game can open up or unset their ranges.

 

It would be even better to specify points than ratings (+1 or more for winning rather than -400 rating).  But I understand that could be harder to program; it would be fairly easy to program if people are already teamed up... harder if they are all in a pool waiting to be paired with partners.

chuckmoulton

@woogiedad You have been seeking for over 4 hours?!

woogiedad
chuckmoulton wrote:

@woogiedad You have been seeking for over 4 hours?!

sorry, i had logged out a while ago and forgot, about 1/5 hour before.

cwfrank
ficslagger wrote:

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That's fine by me if I pick random partner doesn't matter if its a 700 or a 2500. Thanks Erik. 

 

Thank you for saying this.