keep dreaming child
Make Beginnere and Masters Great Again

Seems reasonable; I wasn't there when the fallout happens but it would be a shame to see such a big club go to waste

Viz didn't betray the admins by demoting some of them; all that happened was an April Fools joke that went too far and served as a wake up call to Viz about the direction the club was headed and that wasn't a direction they wanted.
Following shortly after, Viz lowered the admin and related roles down to a select few that they felt they could trust; the hope being to rebuild the club leadership.
The club itself stayed the same; Beginners And Masters club only became much less active later on once Den of Patzers club was created and a lot of the activity shifted over to that club.
There is no need to revisit the past if we don't have to Cobra, but let us not "change history" and make that event seem like it was more than what really happened.
The club itself didn't change too much right after the April Fool's incident; only the leadership roles changed. People were talking stuff about Viz before, during and after the incident...so that didn't really change either.

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no body cares lololol
I thought you left yesterday...

I do remember, yet don't want to revisit the past (unless you want to private message me just for remembering accurately) as we can all simply move on from it. The "joke" itself wasn't the main issue at the time though, it was the breach of "security" and misusing the leadership roles which was the main problem. Furthermore, the "joke" might have began with you LGP, but it wasn't just one person as a select few dog-piled on the joke and just made things worse.
I think you all low-key traumatized Viz because when they got back the club was dramatically changed and I had to fill them in on what happened and what has been fixed since then as the club wasn't fully back to normal by the time they got back.

I do remember, yet don't want to revisit the past (unless you want to private message me just for remembering accurately) as we can all simply move on from it. The "joke" itself wasn't the main issue at the time though, it was the breach of "security" and misusing the leadership roles which was the main problem. Furthermore, the "joke" might have began with you LGP, but it wasn't just one person as a select few dog-piled on the joke and just made things worse.
I think you all low-key traumatized Viz because when they got back the club was dramatically changed and I had to fill them in on what happened and what has been fixed since then as the club wasn't fully back to normal by the time they got back.
yeah, but viz still made the mistake. I never agreed with him demoting everyone. he should have just demoted the immature admins and kept the rest. but seriously, he never did anything to help the club after that.
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no body cares lololol